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post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
Hi Guys.
I used to lurk and post infrequently on here a couple of years ago. My old log-in no longer seems to work, and I'm a little unsure of the rules for posting videos for a little feedback. The forums have grown somewhat!
Is it okay to do it here or in Instruction? Or, not at all!
post #2 of 13

MA's are fine in this forum. Just post your video clip on youtube/google/vimeo/whatever and post a link here. It helps to describe what you were trying to do in the clip, your background, your gear and what kind of feedback you're looking for.
post #3 of 13
Video MA is something that happens here quite frequently. So posting it here would be the right place if you want a detailed break down from some of the pros here at Epic.
I would also suggest it as an addition to working with a coach on the snow. The reason I say that is with a coach you have the opportunity to get live feedback about your skiing and any changes you are making. Without that live interaction the whole process is slower and misunderstandings are more frequent.
post #4 of 13
Thread Starter 
Ok thanks. Here goes then.
I'm looking for some general feedback on the skiing in the videos as you see it.
I'm looking for some drills to do, or things to keep in mind for my next trip in a few weeks. I know I have a problem sitting back, just not sure how to correct it.
I started skiing in 99 and have done about 90 days since then. I've had about 15 days of instruction in that time, although the first week doesn't count as I had a non English speaking recalcitrant Italian Instructor...
The piste is a blue in Europe and is a little steeper at the start than it looks.
In the first video I'm trying to ski slower with a bit more control.
In the second I let them run as the piste flattened out.

Skis are Head iXRC 1100 in a 167

I also have a giant fridge a couple of miles away to practice in!

Thanks in advance for any help.
post #5 of 13
can't see the videos...

and welcome back
post #6 of 13
Thread Starter 
Whoops. Can't seem to edit the post. Here they are!
post #7 of 13
I fixed the original links. Use just the video index number 2848358 rather than the whole url link.

Mark, send me a PM on your old identity and I'll merge your account together.

EDIT Mark, I merged the inapickle account with your former MarkP account and sent out an automated email with a password reminder. If you have any difficulty logging in under the new name, send an email to Thanks, and welcome back.

post #8 of 13
Hi Mark,

You have a nice tall stance. Your weight is not too far back. To get it just a smidgeon more forward, try flexing your ankles more, getting a little more wind on your belly button and see if you can hang your nose over your knees instead of behind them (i.e. the Tony Knows drill - toes, knees and nose in a vertical line). Another drill you can try is to ski with your hands behind your back. 1000 shuffles is a good drill (where you shuffle your feet back and forth constantly through every turn), but a good variation is to only shuffle 2-3 times just during the transition. Have you ever tried skiing with your hands held behind your back? Finally, you might want to try ditching the backpack for a few runs and see what difference that makes. If it feels better, then put the pack back on, but add a ton of weight to it. Notice what adjustments this forces you to make, then use those movements when the pack is back at normal weight.

You finish your turns at about a 45% angle to the fall line and tend to have a straight line exit from one turn into the next. I'd like to
see you finish your turns more and eliminate that straight spot. Try carved traverses to a stop. Start with a shallow traverse, focusing on leaving thin carved tracks in the snow. Work your way to steeper traverses with higher uphill finishes (watch for traffic!). Then start making a second turn before you come to a stop (i.e. while still traveling uphill). Focus on starting the new turn with very aggressive tipping of the boots. Once you can do this with a smooth edge to edge roll into the new turn, take those movements into shorter and shorter traverses until they are back into normal turns.

Pay close attention to to your right turns. Your right hand gets caught to the inside of the body (it's in between the torso and the camera starting at the fall line as opposed to being visible to the right side of the body). This blocks you from making a movement to the inside of the new turn. Try initiating your turns with a skating step. Also work on making your pole touches closer to your ski tip, but more down the hill from your touching now. Another drill is to focus on extending your inside hand forward through the bottom of your turns (this will be the uphill hand at the end of your turn). Try to make a slow and continuous movement forward from the pole touch (extend the hand that made the pole touch) until the start of the next pole touch with the other hand. You tend to get in an over countered position right after the fall line. This last drill will help you create increasing counter as you finish your turn.

You ski with a lot of comfort and control. I like how most of the action is happening below the waist. I suspect that this starts falling apart a little when the conditions get steeper or more challenging. Can you see the turns where your feet slide together in the fall line to help you get your weight to the inside of the new turn? These drills will get you "out of the pickle" of more challenging conditions. Thanks for letting us critique. It was fun.
post #9 of 13
Two things I would suggest:

1. Counter-balance drills. It appears to me that you are starting your turns by banking in with your upper body. You can draw a line from the top of your head, straight down your jacket zipper, to your outside foot from the edge change until the fall line.

2. Releasing drills. You are standing up very tall at the edge change. This is blocking you from moving into the next turn efficiently and robbing you of ski performance.

Doing some searching on those two terms will yield you a lifetime of drills and exercises to practice. It looks like you've already got a solid base to work from and should see noticeable results with a little dedicated practice.
post #10 of 13
Thread Starter 
Hi Guys, That's some great feedback.
First of all your assumption about it all falling apart on steeper, harder snow is spot on. I tend to put half a dozen 'good' turns in, then as the weight gets further and further back I have to bail.
I could do with a couple of clarifications though.
First. When you say 'getting a little more wind on your belly button', is this achieved just by ankle flex?
Second. Could you clarify what you mean by 'Try initiating your turns with a skating step'?
I realise not finishing my turns is a bit of a problem for me. I've been told about it before.
I thought i was doing that a bit better! But watching back I can see what you mean.
The thing with poles is very interesting too. I can see it on the videos now.
I should be able to practise those in the fridge. The other exercises will have to wait for a little more space...

I also have a question for onyxjl. Could you clarify a little about 'You are standing up very tall at the edge change', I was under the impression that was a good thing?

I assume nobody see's any drastic alignment or boot issues? I know that comes up frequently around here, but try asking any one in the UK about it and they look at you funny!

I also totally understand about doing this in conjunction with a coach, but this isn't possible for me this year. Unless I can wangle a third trip somewhere.

Many thanks for looking though. I really appreciate it.

post #11 of 13
Originally Posted by inapickle View Post
Could you clarify a little about 'You are standing up very tall at the edge change', I was under the impression that was a good thing?
When you are at edge change or neutral with both skis flat on the snow, both legs will be the same length. This is the only point in your turn where both legs are equal in length. At other points in the turn the outside leg is longer than the inside leg in varying degrees. So when you go through the edge change transition the long leg shortens while the short leg lengthens creating an equal leg position neither totally straight or fully flexed. This partially flexed position allows you to rotate your thighs to tip your skis onto their new edges. If your legs were straight at the ankles, knees and hips you would not be able to tip your skis to new edges without tipping your entire body or angulating your hip. This would be inefficient compared to tipping to the new edges by rotating your femur in a clockwise or counter clockwise rotation to effect the tipping movement.
post #12 of 13
Originally Posted by inapickle View Post
First. When you say 'getting a little more wind on your belly button', is this achieved just by ankle flex?
Second. Could you clarify what you mean by 'Try initiating your turns with a skating step'?
Try standing up and moving your shoulders forward and down so that you are bent slightly at the waist and your belly button moves backward. From that position, push your belly button forward to get back to the starting position. That's the move I'm talking about. Try this exercise with your knees straight or bent. You may be able to notice your ankles flexing as you come forward, but you probably won't feel your ankles flexing.

Can you "skate" your skis across flat ground (moving with your skis in a "V" shape, pushing off one ski, lifting then stepping onto the other ski to glide forward, then pushing off that ski, etc)? The lifting, then stepping move is what this drill asks you to do to start a new turn. Do this with your new inside ski.
post #13 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the clarification.
I can skate, It has been know for me to pull my errant border mates along the flats... so I will try this exercise too.
My next full week on snow is in February. I'll report back and let you guys know how I got on!
Thanks again for the advice.
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