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post #1 of 18
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LOL..I will probablly just do it anyway. I dunno..they are new..just old..but available.
post #2 of 18
Sounds good to me. .
post #3 of 18
How old? Many of the best deals are on skis a couple years old & any reviews on those skis would be a great help.
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post #5 of 18
Post away!
post #6 of 18
Thread Starter 
Actually..I do have some really old..pretty much no longer available anywhere at all skis. I have only ever seen this pair that I have.They were really the first wood skis with metal edges that I know of. Pre screw on edges. Pre rivetted. There are actually holes through the sides..walls?(base&top ) and the rivets are hand peened over onto the top I did intend on skiing them again one day. And of course a review! They were my fathers. I even have some old leather lace ups..but the construction of this ski is going to make it very tricky to mount any sort of newer binding to it using those boots without using the manly stuff they came with/he used. Bear traps. I have skied with bear traps. No more bear traps thanks.

Older?? No..sorry. No review possible.The first skis I had I got rid of. Shouldn't of. Oh well..the mistakes of youth. I think I was about 8 or so. No metal edges. LOL. No bindings. Just a mortised square slot through the wood ski sideways under the boot area for a leather strap. Very tight boot/binding/ski coupling for sure. Laterally super stiff brown galoshes sp? with the single strap and single buckle around the top.

Ok..I'll write up a review of some skis tomorrow.
post #7 of 18
post them.
post #8 of 18
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Originally Posted by Rio View Post
How old? Many of the best deals are on skis a couple years old & any reviews on those skis would be a great help.
For sure! If I come across skis that are new/a few years old/cheap..for sure!
Problem is..I dunno about the value of posting a review on a ski that is not easily/readily available.
I did post a review on the Volkl P50 F1's..even though they are old..they are still easily and readily available as well as dirt cheap. There is some talk about them and I thought it might be of some value/help.

There were lots of new Dynastar Course 66's available end of last season until a little while ago anyways..dirt cheap. Problem was they were 2005's and only available in a 189. I bought a pair and they were like $70 or something. When I get mine fired up I will do a review. I am pretty sure more likely they will do a review of me. Probablly not pretty either haha.
post #9 of 18
We need Rossi Smash to post reviews on the contents of his outbuilding. That should keep us all busy for the next ten years.
post #10 of 18
Go on, post those.
I've received a new pair of Nordica Hot Rod Top Fuel in 178 this november, model year 2006...I sure will post a review once skied them a little bit more...
I'll always try to buy "best deals" so, reviews on "old" (as not current model year) skis will be helpful.
post #11 of 18

Remember Hee Haw?

"Gloom, dispair and angony on me,

I refuse to pay retail, but still I love to ski,

If it weren't for old skis, I'd have no skis at all..."

I say bring on the old reviews!
post #12 of 18
Amen. We can put Keelty out of business. I never found the reviews there that worthwhile anyway.
post #13 of 18
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Originally Posted by bjohansson View Post
Amen. We can put Keelty out of business. I never found the reviews there that worthwhile anyway.
I found them very useful.
post #14 of 18
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Originally Posted by viking kaj View Post
We need Rossi Smash to post reviews on the contents of his outbuilding. That should keep us all busy for the next ten years.
I have skied a different pair everytime out this season (alright one pair two days). I'm just not that sensitive to skis I guess.
The conditions vary so much day to day that I really don't know what is ski and what is snow. I would literally need to do run to run comparisons on the same day to really notice anything beyond I like them or I don't.

So far;

Volkl Snow Rangers, 180cm, 105-80-98, high 30's, spring snow in Nov.

Head Supershapes, 175cm, 122-66-97, cold day, scratchy snow in places

Head chip iM77's, 177cm, 120-78-105, 2 days, mixed conditions, cold, hardpacked, death cookies, 3" fresh

Volkl P40 Platinums, 193cm, 100-63-86, cold, PP to HP

Rossi 4Sk, 200cm, 85-65-74, cold, HP w/softer stuff along the trail edges


See....I like them all
post #15 of 18
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
I found them very useful.
Oh yeah? Well I didn't, so there

I just kept old issues of Sk/Skiing/Ski Press gear guides. I don't pay for those magazines, somehow I just keep getting free subscriptions...Sk Press is free anyway. Maybe I was missing something, but Keelty's reviews for older skis were pretty much just specs. Or did I miss something? I paid the fee for a coupla years, but the only detailed reviews were for current year skis.
post #16 of 18
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Originally Posted by bjohansson View Post
Oh yeah? Well I didn't, so there

I just kept old issues of Sk/Skiing/Ski Press gear guides. I don't pay for those magazines, somehow I just keep getting free subscriptions...Sk Press is free anyway. Maybe I was missing something, but Keelty's reviews for older skis were pretty much just specs. Or did I miss something? I paid the fee for a coupla years, but the only detailed reviews were for current year skis.
I disagreed with some of Keelty's reviews too. You are right. Some of the older reviews were just specs.
Keeping old issues of the likes of the free "Ski Press". I would never do that HAHA. You probablly grabbed yours at the movies too haha. A lot of that identical Ski Press stuff is online under I think Canoe. I guess you paid close attention too to some of the testers..and the sheer # of them and some of their credentials. Very impressive skiers a lot of them! I REALLY liked it when they had MAJOR disagreements. Iirc it was Ski Press that had "average" skiers as testers too.
post #17 of 18
You are right that the 7 year old reviews have fewer details than the newer reviews.

Arnold, would you agree with "Serious GS ski, great carver, versatile, good rebound, quick edge-to-edge without sacrificing stability at speed. Requires good skills: advanced to expert." for the P50 F1s?
post #18 of 18
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
You are right that the 7 year old reviews have fewer details than the newer reviews.

Arnold, would you agree with "Serious GS ski, great carver, versatile, good rebound, quick edge-to-edge without sacrificing stability at speed. Requires good skills: advanced to expert." for the P50 F1s?
Ghost..

Eeeks..reviewing/comparing a review..ok..sure..here goes..
I would agree with "serious GS ski". And have read that too. Even years later about them.Not that I am capable of really seriouslly critiquing skis of that level properly.I am surely not. Considerring the # of GS skis that I have had and the differences,performance that I can appreciate. Sure it is outdated. Especially in the tip..and of course turn initiation. But as a "serious" GS ski..by today's standards(or few years ago). I would really have to see someone ski them..or know them before I would believe them that they felt or said they are a pos GS Ski/GS Race ski and they could detail their major faults. Finer,smaller points. Sure..I can do some of that. Ease of use..no they are tough. I have a very tough time imagining just about any skier laying a humiliating beating on these things. That would come under the category.."That is a cat's/dog's tail I should not have touched"

Great carver..?? Um..I would have to say poor. By 2002 standards and today.Based on "overall" carving. Over a wide range and comparing them to so many other skis. Especially newer skis.OH they WILL CARVE!! just like a friggin' scalpel. At slower speeds.No/On their own terms.Yes. First you need to recover from their acceleration blast..THEN you have to deal with them NOT wanting to turn and shake off their laser beam like tracking. Once rolling at speed..yes..there they are very easy to carve and ultra precise. Sure would not be my choice for anything steep though. There are just so many skis that carve well and easily over a wide range. And way too many skis that carve GREAT! over a HUGE! range without having to go through this. Are they worth it to me in that department/or are they that good at carving in their niche that it is worth it. No way.

Versatile..LOL..welllll...they ARE skiable..sort of..BADLY..overall..but they are "skiiable" .To the lift. From the lift to the run they can scare you on. And back. You CAN ski around on them But why?? I can't imagine anyone spending that kind of time on these and improving. While I have been on enough skis of this performance level that were NOT really skiable for a lot of conditions. LOl..that sure imho does not make them "versatile"

Good rebound? Jeez I dunno. These are a horribly damped..as in zero,..caustic,reactive ski that has pretty bad manners until it is rolling. Loading these takes a very skiilled and deft hand! Not mine.Controlling/dealing with the rebound. To be honest..I never really loaded them. I load it a bit at the wrong speed and it wants to bite me! I just backed off left them alone until they got rolling.I weighted them a bit,hung on. Steered them. There are just certain speeds..transitions that this ski feels like a coiled snake. Immediately before,during,and immediately after they cross fall line..you'ld just better have this thing loaded and enough speed or it ain't gonna be yo friend. Once they are rolling they settle down nice. If you like skiing at that speed. Not me all the time. Remember this is a softer ski..and loads fairly easily.

Quick edge to edge. BLISTERRING!! edge to edge. But again..next to impossible to control until it gets rolling..by then it is still so precise that it gives me the heeby jeebies about moving my feet or anything else fast. While it does settle down.It is ultra precise and ultra fast reacting when run in quick linked fall line turns at medium speed. At medium speed this ski does not make me nervous. Very respectful of it. It is SOooo SERENE and precise at speed. I still cannot get over how well it tracks! That I do love about this ski a lot!

"Without sacrficing stablity" I dunno about that comment. The ONLY thing this thing is gonna sacrifice is the skier. Why would anyone say that? This is a fairly highly specialized no compromise ski. Just about all the GS skis I have been on are very stable. I don't think I can think of a bad one. Especially in a straight line..off edge. That is mainly why I like them. I dunno..when you are in the design process of a ski like this do you start with stability and take away to get other qualities? Or add enough stability in and take away other things?
I dunno. Stability in this thing has sure been sacrificed until it gets rolling that's for sure. Slow speed in this ski=pos.

Requires good skills. Advanced to expert.Umm..I would say requires more than that. Pretty good..not great..to just get down any hill. Good skills? Just good? I dunno. I think if this thing got away from you..right off the bat you would need more than just "good" skills to deal with it. I would say that I have good skills..not great or expert..but I also buy/test a lot of skis so that does give me a definite decided advantage in dealing with many flavours of ski personality behaviour. A good skier. Respectful. CAREFUL..sure. Can sort of feel it out.But this is not just an expert level ski to be able to appreciate it. It really requires some basic GS Race skills as well at the least. It is really an expert level GS Race ski. I have been on some GREAT! fun! consumer level GS skis. And had WAAY more fun! and they were WAAY easier to ski with/play with. I have never been on a consumer level ski even remotelly like this.

I love the way they track. That alone makes them keepers.
I ski them again tomorrow.
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