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Oops, almost forgot to mention that I used the old Swix wax for my daughter's skis, and I could see a huge difference between her and mine.

Which Swix wax?

The universal (All-in-One 0-32 degrees).  Same as used for mine before Maplus.

Dang, I meant Toko, not Swix.  Sorry about that.

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Out of curiosity, does your resort make a lot of snow whales?

 

I guess so.  We've opened this season top to bottom on selected runs prior to any snow fall.

However, by the time the slopes are opened to the public everything is groomed to boring uniformity.

 

incog, I would consider this answer fairly close to 'No'.    

 

Quite a few of us know snow whales as multi-day frozen crusted objects in the middle of the trail   that  require a bit extra attention when skiing on weekdays,  but that then get spread out for the weekend crowds to have nice granular snow instead of snowgun needles shards and flakes.


Edited by comprex - Wed, 04 Feb 09 13:11:13 GMT
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Out of curiosity, does your resort make a lot of snow whales?

 

I guess so.  We've opened this season top to bottom on selected runs prior to any snow fall.

However, by the time the slopes are opened to the public everything is groomed to boring uniformity.

 

incog, I would consider this answer fairly close to 'No'.    

 

Quite a few of us know snow whales as multi-day frozen crusted objects in the middle of the trail   that  require a bit extra attention when skiing on weekdays,  but that then get spread out for the weekend crowds to have nice granular snow instead of snowgun needles shards and flakes.


Edited by comprex - Wed, 04 Feb 09 13:11:13 GMT

You're right.  My definition of snow whales is berms of machine made snow, left on the slope where the snow gun was pointing.  They have a great tendency to stop you dead in your tracks.  Either way, my resort makes them, but I don't get to see them.  I live in a corduroy universe, which would be OK with me if they'd leave at least one or two bump runs.  Runs which were double black diamonds a few years ago, are easy black/stiff blue at best.  My daughter has about 10 days on skis in her life, and she skied every run on the hill, in a pretty decent style.  This should not be possible.


Edited by incognito - Thu, 05 Feb 09 09:40:30 GMT
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Sounds it's time you put her in the racing program?

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With man-made snow, I can see and feel the difference in the wax after 2 hours of aggressive skiing. Actually, I noticed the difference after 4 runs, but it doesn't bother me until a couple of hours have passed.

 

One of the longer lasting waxes for me is the Dominator Race Zoom new snow wax. YMMV.

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Sounds it's time you put her in the racing program?

Ain't happening.  She's been into competition rock climbing for a few years, with pretty respectable results at the national level and just got fed up.  I will support her skiing, by personally coaching her, buying coaching if needed, and whatever she asks for, but I won't put her into a program (unless she asks for it).  Besides, it's an easy decision, because it's geographically almost impossible.

 

However, as a father, I have to say we've had absolutely amazing bonding on our skiing outings.  I'm bending over backwards to make sure she's having fun, suggesting hot chocolate whenever it gets a little chilly (I'm usually ready for a beer at the same time), and she's the one insisting on skiing.

 

Hmm, can I hijack my own thread

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With man-made snow, I can see and feel the difference in the wax after 2 hours of aggressive skiing. Actually, I noticed the difference after 4 runs, but it doesn't bother me until a couple of hours have passed.

 

One of the longer lasting waxes for me is the Dominator Race Zoom new snow wax. YMMV.

I'm beginning to see that dry, aggressive man-made is the culprit.  I was pretty lackadaisical about waxing until I did a race camp last year.  Everyone in the camp tuned and waxed every evening so it rubbed off on me.  The camp was on a glacier, and the wax usually lasted 2-3 day.  My latest experiment with Maplus was very good, but at the end of the day, there wasn't much left.

We'll see again this weekend.  I'ts been snowing for the last couple of days, so I'm may use my other skis.

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I'll send an RB Hard sample. You got me curious to find out if you notice any difference. I've been recommending it for East coast, man made sand paper, err.... 'snow'.

 

If you discover it works better, we can easily exchange some or all of the waxes,

 

(I should talk, we have coral reef snow at the moment, until it warms, and with your storm making it's way to us, hopefully we too will be flush with powder. Hopefully, I won't die on the teles today.)

 

Terry


Edited by Alpinord - 2/7/2009 at 03:04 pm
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I'll send an RB Hard sample. You got me curious to find out if you notice any difference. I've been recommending it for East coast, man made sand paper, err.... 'snow'.

 

If you discover it works better, we can easily exchange some or all of the waxes,

 

(I should talk, we have coral reef snow at the moment, until it warms, and with your storm making it's way to us, hopefully we too will be flush with powder. Hopefully, I won't die on the teles today.)

 

Terry


Edited by Alpinord - 2/7/2009 at 03:04 pm

 

This sounds great!  Today was the first day I've ever skied powder at my local resort.  I've used my Bandits, first day on since I have the bases restructured.  The prep was: 3 cycles of wax/scrape/brush, first two with my old Toko, the last with Race Base Medium.  They were great - excellent glide and not a trace of wear.  And I've heard a few people complaining about sticking to the snow.

I don't know exactly what you mean by coral reef snow.  Two weeks ago we had corduroy which was groomed the previous day, while still soft, and frozen so hard that you'd need a hammer to drive a nail.

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I don't know exactly what you mean by coral reef snow.

Imagine a very saturated snow that gets transformed, is highly irregular and then freezes. It adds a new dimension of abrasiveness (and scariness) above man made or crust.

 

Ski this:

 

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Hi Alpinord,

 

The sample of Race Base Hard has arrived.  Many, many thanks.  In any area, it's such a joy to do business with people who care.

 

Ironically though, the forecast for this weekend is more powder (unheard of in SoCal), so I won't be able to really test it.

 

Now I know what you mean by coral reef.  A beer at the lodge is infinitely more fun.

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