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Non Park guy - twins make any sense?

post #1 of 12
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Never tried twin tips and have no plans to be a trickster in the terrain park but have been told to demo a few pairs. Are they any different in bumps or off-piste compared to a traditional ski?

All I have gathered is they usually ski a bit short which makes sense I guess. Any recommendations for a good off-piste and quick turner (for bumps)?

Cheers!
post #2 of 12
they look better. make everyone think your going to throw a double off a kicker or something..


volkl bridges are nice. so is the mantra although not very twin.
post #3 of 12
It really depends on what twins you were told to demo. There are a few that are great all mountain skis that can easily handle anything you throw at them. Then on the other hand there are a few that are horrible everywhere except in the park.

A couple of my top choices would be the Dynastar Trouble Maker/Big Trouble, the Line Prophet 90/100 or even the K2 Extreme.
post #4 of 12
Twintips tend to have less sidecut compared to 'carving' skis and the turned up tail allows for easy turn release. These qualities make them excellent in bumps, woods, any where that pivoting beats carving, really. Basically, they make great all around skis for adventurous skiers, if you stick to groomers and like to carve then there are better choices.
post #5 of 12
I like them -- they are a little more fun and easygoing to ski. If there is a downside, it's that sometimes the turned up tail adds weight/bulk out back, and can sometimes hang up in bumps, powder, crud. But I only noticed that when I first started skiing twins. Now it's not really an issue anymore.
post #6 of 12
if you want an all arounder try the salomon lord

waaaay fun
post #7 of 12
You know what I like best about twinntips?

The rooster tail and face shots the people skiing behind you get.
post #8 of 12
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Originally Posted by Mike G View Post
Never tried twin tips and have no plans to be a trickster in the terrain park but have been told to demo a few pairs. Are they any different in bumps or off-piste compared to a traditional ski?

All I have gathered is they usually ski a bit short which makes sense I guess. Any recommendations for a good off-piste and quick turner (for bumps)?
One pain about twins is they don't lean against the wall (or stick in the snow) as easily as traditional tails. They also tend to throw a rooster tail when up on edge (can annoy others). You'll also notice them when you cross your tails. Otherwise, they generally ski/feel just like non-twins.

The main purpose of twins is to ski/land backwards. If you don't have reverse in your gearbox, you may not need twins. I ski forward 97% of the time, but sometimes it is fun to go backwards just to learn how, so I decided to get tips in back.

There are two basic types of twin tips: symmetrical and non-symmetrical. Parksters like center mounted symmetrical twin tips for easier spinning and switch riding.

For a non-parkster, I'd recommend demoing non-symmetrical twins: longer tip, shorter tail (traditional ski shape). Also usually a wider shovel (tip) than tail (again, traditional ski shape). Lots (most?) of twins actually fall into this category (Volkl Mantras, Gotamas, Bridges, etc.).
post #9 of 12
Last spring I saw a pair of Gotomas on eBay that had the tails cut down. They were being sold by a ski patrol that said he liked the ski but that they the turned up tails greatly reduced his ability to kick off when skating
post #10 of 12
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
Last spring I saw a pair of Gotomas on eBay that had the tails cut down. They were being sold by a ski patrol that said he liked the ski but that they the turned up tails greatly reduced his ability to kick off when skating
Plus the fact one couldn't stick them in the snow to mark an accident scene.
post #11 of 12
The tails on my Mojo 80s get in the way when skating or doing the herringbone.

They make an decent old-school free-dogging ski, but I'd prefer a tail with less upturn on it, and a little less width. They'll likely never see a terrain park, but last time I used them, they were pointed uphill more often than any of the park rats' twins.

I continue to find kids who are amazed that it's possible to do tricks without a terrain park.

The chief benefit of a twin-tip is landing backwards from a jump. The upturn on, say, a Rossi B78, an IM78 or the like is sufficient for just doing surface spins and skiing backward, and will give all the forward-motion benefits of a twin-tip without spraying everyone behind you. I'm already on the hunt for a replacement for the Mojos.
post #12 of 12
Twin tips also tend to be better in moguls. The turned up tail and the generally softer tail flex allows the tail to "roll" off the moguls and not catch as easily as an older style square tail.
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