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09 Nordica Hot Rod Nitrous

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Any reviews on this model?
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I bought a pair of Nordica Hot Rod Nitrous mid january 2009.  Skied them mainly on piste and on shallow powder so far.  I ski aggressive, fast, red runs and blacks.

 

These skis are amazing: equally good at carving fast turns, short and long.  Very stable at speed. Good edge grip on icy bits.

 

All of a sudden I am leaving in my wake skiers who had been keeping up with me or skiing faster.

 

Off piste I suspect they may be weak on crud or deep powder, but have limited experience so far.

 

But overall for primarily on piste skiing they are a great buy.

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I have a pair I really like.  A ski instructor who's a Nordica rep got me connected to get a pair of demos for cheap.  I haven't skied that many skis so not much to directly compare to.  My take is that it's a ski with a pretty wide performance range.  It's easy to ski and will be forgiving of less than perfect intermediate technique and while I'm not an especially high speed skier I've never had them feel unstable at speed.  Yet it's got enough performance to take you pretty far.  I think they're pretty good in crud and a little powder.  It's generally gotten very good reviews.  If you ski real fast and aggressively, especially on harder snow, you might want to look at it's stiffer brother (don't recall the name off hand) with the same dimensions and metal.  If I were in the market I'd probably look real hard at the Dynastar Contact 4 x 4 -- similar dimensions by probably a bit higher performance ski.  Always best to demo if you can.

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I bought the Dynastar 4x4's in 172cm, no regrets, I love them!

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All right, here ya go with another opinion.  I skied a pair of 178s at Sugar Bowl yesterday for several runs, at their free demo day.  Thanks, guys, nice event.  They were beautifully tuned.  Conditions were that it was about three days since the last significant snowfall, snow was mostly tracked out, more or less compacted, depending on location, had been affected by the sun, and then had been chilled again, with a fair amount of wind drift blown in to soften up the surface in many areas.  The bumps were building up in places, but were still pretty soft.  Some of the heavily-traveled groomed runs were getting firm and slick, especially in sunny exposures, but the snow quality was holding up well, and nothing on the groomers could truly be called icy.  Some of the tracked-out off-piste slopes were getting crunchy.  Coverage was excellent.  I'm 6'1", 170 lbs., and would rate myself as a strong, aggressive skier.  I like a little speed.

Nordica states that in the 178 length, these have a 17.5 meter radius.  To me, they actually felt like less.  Carved turns were like largish slalom turns, rather than GS turns.  Note that the stated radius drops rapidly for the shorter models, all the way down to 11.5 meters for the 154s.  For my size, I certainly wouldn't have wanted shorter than the 178s.  That felt like a very nice length for this style of ski.

I skied a variety of groomers, including some fairly steep pitches off of the northwest side of Mt. Disney.  The Nitrous responded to good technique by consistently making smooth, predictable, round, carved turns, under all groomed conditions.  Turn initiation was easy both at the slowest speeds on gentle terrain, and on much steeper grades.  I expect that they would deftly handle the hardest of hard pack.  I found them very easy to ski in this way.  I could confidently lay them way over on edge.  Skiing moderately steep terrain actually felt lazy and rhythmic.  I would rate the Nitrous as having a medium flex, consistent from tip to tail.  They were stable and grippy at the speeds I was mostly skiing.

On the other hand, this was not a ski that naturally developed much speed.  It was too inclined to turn for that to happen.  Very carvy.  Compared to burlier, straighter skis, it could get squirrely when run straight.  I doubt that this would be a good ski for attempting big, high-speed turns, although I know that other reviewers have reported differently.  What this ski really wanted to do at all times was to carve tight turns.

And the Nitrous is not going to develop the energy and pop of a race ski.  It gave the impression of a ski that will naturally settle into a certain speed and rhythm, and will give a non-intimidating ride in a variety of snow and terrain conditions.

I took them into moderate-size moguls on a couple of the runs.  I felt that they were too hooky to be great in moguls, although they were certainly capable of handling them.  I also did a run, the steepest of the afternoon, in broken, tracked snow that had not been fully compacted.  In these conditions, the Nitrous will bounce you around more than a burlier and wider ski, although again, it's certainly capable of handling them when necessary.  The ability to turn them on a dime is a plus, as is the wide shovel.  Personally, I certainly think I'd prefer a larger ski for spending much time in wild, off-piste snow.  What's interesting is that with a 78 mm waist, the Nitrous falls solidly in what used to be considered the mid-fat category.  Today, it would be considered below that range.

To my mind, the Nitrous would be a great choice for a strong intermediate skier looking to improve his carving skills.  It will respond well to improving technique, and give positive feedback and satisfying results.  It will also offer the owner competence in a variety of conditions, both on and off groomed slopes.  For that niche, the quality of this ski is very apparent.

But on the whole, this isn't a ski that suits my style, or that I'd be likely to buy.  I prefer something that will charge harder, and that will be more versatile off-trail.  But it's a matter of personal preference.  The Nitrous should respond well to expert skills.  Really, I was making some of the nicest turns I've ever made, in the style for which this ski is designed.  So I think that it comes down to how you like to ski, and what you're looking for.

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I bought a pair of Nordica Hot Rod Nitrous last week at the end of the season.  I'm 5'10 and weigh 75 Kg.  I'm a reasonable 'intermediate plus'  skier.  I like some speed, but I'm by no means a blaster.  Prefer to concentrate on style and technique rather than gun down the mountain.  At 55 my sense of self preservation is acute so I like to feel in control.  Broken bones take longer to heal at my age !

 

So, I tested both the 162cm and the 170cm, for two days each to give them a real work-out.  I felt the 162 were too short - giving me a negative psychological feeling of "going over the top" when skiing steep terrain, and consequently  found myself holding back a little. When I tried the 170's I felt really confident, and the ski really then came into it's own.

 

The condidtions I skied in to test them were really varied. In the mornings I skied on two high altitude black runs that are artificially iced (as they are used very early in the morning  for world cup downhill training runs), and then opened for general use.  So these (very steep !!) slopes were covered in a hard blue ice - the ski obviously needed an angle to get them edged, but once there, they stuck to the slope like a ferrari.  On less demanding red runs in 'normal' snow, I found they carved as hard and fast as I had the confidence to push them.  I'm sure there's plenty more angle and speed they could take. They say it's a ski that will take an intermediate through to an expert and I certainly felt I was nowhere near pushing them to the limit.

 

In the afternoon, I moved further down the mountain.  It was April and HOT!! - 24 degrees - so the snow was crud, the piste was chopped and full of irregular moguls, and the bottom of the lower runs were just about slush.  I set off thinking I would get bounced around like I normally would on my existing on-piste skis, (Salomon Aero GT+) , but I was truly amazed.  I was able to ski through stuff  that I never thought would be possible.  I found myself laughing at what I was doing.  The snow conditions were like porridge and here was I, still skiing with some style and actually enjoying it.

 

So I'm impressed.  I haven't tried them in powder, but all the signs are that this ski is just a tremendous all - condition ski that is going to give me loads of fun.  I'm sure there are other ski's that will do the same, but I'm 100% happy with what I've bought.  Can't wait for next season..

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I skied a variety of groomers, including some fairly steep pitches off of the northwest side of Mt. Disney.  The Nitrous responded to good technique by consistently making smooth, predictable, round, carved turns, under all groomed conditions.  Turn initiation was easy both at the slowest speeds on gentle terrain, and on much steeper grades.  I expect that they would deftly handle the hardest of hard pack.  I found them very easy to ski in this way.  I could confidently lay them way over on edge.  Skiing moderately steep terrain actually felt lazy and rhythmic.  I would rate the Nitrous as having a medium flex, consistent from tip to tail.  They were stable and grippy at the speeds I was mostly skiing.

On the other hand, this was not a ski that naturally developed much speed.  It was too inclined to turn for that to happen.  Very carvy.  Compared to burlier, straighter skis, it could get squirrely when run straight.  I doubt that this would be a good ski for attempting big, high-speed turns, although I know that other reviewers have reported differently.  What this ski really wanted to do at all times was to carve tight turns.

And the Nitrous is not going to develop the energy and pop of a race ski.  It gave the impression of a ski that will naturally settle into a certain speed and rhythm, and will give a non-intimidating ride in a variety of snow and terrain conditions.

I took them into moderate-size moguls on a couple of the runs.  I felt that they were too hooky to be great in moguls, although they were certainly capable of handling them.  I also did a run, the steepest of the afternoon, in broken, tracked snow that had not been fully compacted.  In these conditions, the Nitrous will bounce you around more than a burlier and wider ski, although again, it's certainly capable of handling them when necessary.  The ability to turn them on a dime is a plus, as is the wide shovel.  Personally, I certainly think I'd prefer a larger ski for spending much time in wild, off-piste snow.  What's interesting is that with a 78 mm waist, the Nitrous falls solidly in what used to be considered the mid-fat category.  Today, it would be considered below that range.

To my mind, the Nitrous would be a great choice for a strong intermediate skier looking to improve his carving skills.  It will respond well to improving technique, and give positive feedback and satisfying results.  It will also offer the owner competence in a variety of conditions, both on and off groomed slopes.  For that niche, the quality of this ski is very apparent.


Solid review. I totally agree with your impressions and wish I could have summarized it that well. I really enjoy these skis on days where I just really want to carve turns and it is necessary to really stay in control. Normally, that kind of day involves compacted snow conditions with somewhat bumpy terrain, especially at the runs entrance, due to the steepness of what I am skiing.


Edited by liv2 ski - 4/25/2009 at 10:08 pm GMT
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This ski sounds like it may be a lot like the Head Monster 78 I bought and reviewed. Can anybody offer a comparison? I didn't try this one and I don't like system bindings but I'd be curious to hear how they compare.

Thanks.

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