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Thread Starter 
I'm thinking about getting a pair of S11 or S110 HeatFit boots for bumps / trees.

Has anyone tried these? I'm a little concerned that they're soft... but then again I was skiing Lange's that destroyed my shins for years

Is there any real difference between the S11 and S110 other than color?
post #2 of 17
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Originally Posted by joelorcutt View Post
I'm thinking about getting a pair of S11 or S110 HeatFit boots for bumps / trees.

Has anyone tried these? I'm a little concerned that they're soft... but then again I was skiing Lange's that destroyed my shins for years

Is there any real difference between the S11 and S110 other than color?
Apparently there's a change to the instep buckle to make it more adjustable. That's all I can make out from the literature. Other than that I assume the changes are cosmetic. If you're worried about stiffness try to track down a pair of last years S13s. Why don't they make a 120/130 boot in this years S-range
post #3 of 17
I bought a pair of I-types today.
post #4 of 17
those s series boots have a very short liner. often youll need to make a small incision with an exacto over the toes both front to back and side to side to give your foot room to breathe...
post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 

Thanks all

I'm going to go with the S11 boots and save myself a couple hundred dollars. I don't need the instep buckle adjustment and the liners fit me pretty well (although they are a little short). I'm going to try the HeatFit procedure with them and hopefully that will take care of any minor issues. Fortunately, toe area liner adjustment is pretty simple.

Thanks for the help.

Joel
post #6 of 17
Head boots? Richie Rich says they blow.
post #7 of 17
Be careful coming from a race boot to the S series boots. They ski really soft. I have an S12 (2005 model) and they are too soft to do any real skiing on in comparison to even a consumer race boot. They are great boots, very comfortable, but not a top performer unfortunately. Just be warned, they aren't a race boot and won't ski like one.
Later
Greg
post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 

Really??

Any other suggestions? I've got a narrow heel and big calf (17").

I couldn't buckle the Salomon Impact 10 (even with the buckle moved) and the Technicas closed but pinched my calf. The Rossignols weren't that bad but the Head flex felt better (more even).

post #9 of 17
Thread Starter 

Yikes

I'm coming off an old pair of Lange XR9s that stood up pretty well for me but have had the life skied out of them completely. I was hoping for something a little softer so that they'd be a little more forgiving, especially in the bumps.

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Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier View Post
Be careful coming from a race boot to the S series boots. They ski really soft. I have an S12 (2005 model) and they are too soft to do any real skiing on in comparison to even a consumer race boot. They are great boots, very comfortable, but not a top performer unfortunately. Just be warned, they aren't a race boot and won't ski like one.
Later
Greg
post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by joelorcutt View Post
Any other suggestions? I've got a narrow heel and big calf (17").

I couldn't buckle the Salomon Impact 10 (even with the buckle moved) and the Technicas closed but pinched my calf. The Rossignols weren't that bad but the Head flex felt better.

Back when I got the S12, I was also considering the consumer model race boot at the time (Pre-Raptor). It was black and gold and had roughly a 130 flex if I recall correctly (S12 seems to be about 100 or so in flex). It was nearly the same as the S12 in fit, but it had a slightly lower volume lower shell. In hindsight, I should have bought the race model (especially considering it was only $50 more expensive... but I was a poor college student at the time). You may find yourself better off with a consumer model race boot that runs a little wider than the Lange you're coming from because you can always soften the flex if they are too stiff for everyday free skiing... I'm surprised to hear that the Technica's didn't work - I always regarded the Race 130 as a nice plush race boot (cuff was always too big for my skinny calf). You might want to check out the Nordica SpeedMachine 14 boot. I think that runs a bit higher volume... but I don't know about the heel hold. Given you have a narrow heel, I would also consider Lange/Rossi.
Later
Greg
post #11 of 17
Ive owned 5 pairs of Head boots, all consumer race or race stock. I owned 3 different S line boots, they are great boots (contrary to what Prickly said ), roomy but for race/performance on the soft side, which seems to be exactly what you are looking for. Laterally stiff, for and aft forgiving.

If your boots are a FCS model you can get the optional FCS chassis that will allow you to tailor the fit yourself...a good thing since these boots are on the wide side.

Oh and they dont leak in water like Langes do.
post #12 of 17
If you are buying the S11, they have them on Tramdock right now for $200... pretty picked over for sizes though.
post #13 of 17
These are the ones that were on TramDock today.
http://www.backcountryoutlet.com/out...Boot-Mens.html
post #14 of 17
Thread Starter 

damn

i can't believe i missed them
post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by Richie-Rich View Post
Ive owned 5 pairs of Head boots, all consumer race or race stock. I owned 3 different S line boots, they are great boots (contrary to what Prickly said ), roomy but for race/performance on the soft side, which seems to be exactly what you are looking for. Laterally stiff, for and aft forgiving.

If your boots are a FCS model you can get the optional FCS chassis that will allow you to tailor the fit yourself...a good thing since these boots are on the wide side.

Oh and they dont leak in water like Langes do.
FCS = LOL for me! The reason I'm interested in the S-line is because they're 103mm without the FCS. Tried an S9 to check the fit - too soft obviously, but the best off the shelf fit I've felt. It let me go down a size (28/28.5 -> 27/27.5) compared to my GTS12s without crushing my forefoot. By comparison, the GTS12s are nominally 102mm - they don't crush so badly after I stuck 'em in a 90C bath then buckled 'em down hard to stretch them.

Problem - the Norwegians shops that carry Head don't offer anything stiffer than S9/S90! I'll beat on the GTS12s for a while more.
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post #17 of 17
Thanks for the Levelnine hook-up. I scored the S11's for $179 tonight.
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