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Vail group lesson instructor recommendation

post #1 of 17
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I'm going to be skiing Vail 2/6-2/8 and probably taking 3 consecutive all day advanced group lessons. Any recommendations for instructors who might be teaching group lessons that I might be able to request? Thanks!
post #2 of 17
I don't think you can request your instructor for group lessons.
post #3 of 17
Requests are for privates only.
post #4 of 17
Rich Reiter
post #5 of 17
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I don't think you can request your instructor for group lessons.
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Originally Posted by Taylormatt View Post
Requests are for privates only.
In the past when I've had a few names of instructors I've made the request with the ski school supervisor assigning lessons at the time of the line up. If the instructor was teaching a group lesson that day, the supervisor honored the request. However, more often than not, the instructors I've requested are not teaching group lessons that day or are assigned to privates.

I was hoping to have a few names so I could ask in case they were teaching group lessons on the day I was taking a lesson with full realization that most likely, given the enormous size of Vail's ski school staff, I would not get the requested instructor. It's a bit of a long shot, but it costs me nothing (apart from the time spent on EpicSki) and if it does happen, I'll likely have a great lesson.

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Rich Reiter
About 6-7 years ago I skied with Ric in Vail. He was great and I would highly recommend him to anyone. However, Ric is usually booked pretty solid with privates. If he's teaching group lessons I would love to ski with him again.
post #6 of 17
Rumor has it that I've been sighted back in Vail... I might have even been seen teaching again...

If you had seen a blue and gray blur cruising around today, followed by KB in in red, and MB in Blue, it might have been us!


Most likely, it was just my evil twin brother!

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post #7 of 17
I heard about some old fart pilot guy who could do some serious pivot slipping that was pretty good?!
post #8 of 17
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I heard about some old fart pilot guy who could do some serious pivot slipping that was pretty good?!
Just make sure you don't get him confused with another famous pilot...

Vail snopro:



Otto:
post #9 of 17
Along this thread's line, I will be in Vail for a week in March and for the first few days would like to get schooled in bumps. But I don't want to pay for privates. If I signed up for the Alpine Advanced lessons, how much time would be spent in the bumps? I really don't want much groomer time at all, would that be a problem?
post #10 of 17
Returning clients and request privates have a priority in most schools. So the school makes every effort to accomodate them first. No surprise there. Most guests expect that level of loyalty from their coaches and the school in general. Especially those who book their favorite coach well in advance.
As others have already pointed out there is a possibility of getting a specific coach, if they have room in their present class. Or if they have a cancelation, or if they are actually unassigned and at work that day. (Even snopros need a day off now and then). My advice would be to contact Vail's lesson desk in advance to determine the availability of that coach during your vacation. Yes, they will probably suggest the only way to guarantee that availability is to book a private lesson but as I mentioned above clients who pay for a request private are first in line for that coaches services. As it should be.
Share with the lesson desk and the lesson co-ordinator what you are seeking and I am sure they will get you the most appropriate coach available on staff that day.
post #11 of 17
Do you think it is feasable to have a group lesson that spends most of the day in the bumps or is it whatever the majority of the group wants?
post #12 of 17
It all depends on how well you ski the bumps already. If you don't have the fundamental skills in place it doesn't make much sense to try to teach them to you there. Beyond that they should be able to accomodate that request.
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Just make sure you don't get him confused with another famous pilot...

Vail snopro:



Otto:

Hey Fox!

Just remember why I'm smiling... I'm skiing, and you are not! lol RR
post #14 of 17
So the whole group would have to be ready and able to spend the day in the bumps. For all the Vail instructors, how often does your advanced groups end up in the bumps?
post #15 of 17
mitch236- it will depend on the group. As JASP stated above, if the fundementals of the group are solid, then there is no reason most of the day can't be spent in the bumps, provided that is the will of the majority.

Be advised that the group will also move at the rate of the lowest common denominator(slowest person). But if there is a significant split in speed and skill sets, those slower students will be in another group anyway!

Where things get goofed up is like the group I had yesterday- 3 people, all fast skiers, but all with very different anticipated outcomes. One wanted to jump off everything that would provide air, but no bumps. The next wanted to just high speed cruise on groomers, with no bumps. The third wanted to ski alot of bumps and steeps.

As it was a group lesson, I had to inform them that we would be doing ALL of the afore mentioned skiing. In the end, it worked out ok. They all needed work in the bumps, we spent some of the steep groomed runs working on short turn basics, and I got to watch them all crash and burn off the Lover's Leap cornice. (They loved it!... go figure!) But in the end, maybe 25-30% of the time was spent in the bumps.

So do not expect that your entire day will be spent in bumps- unless you are the only skier in the group!

I have been teaching levl 8-9 classes for the past couple of weeks, and our average class size at that level has been running between 1-4 students. No guarantees that they will be the same when you arrive.
But there is nothing stopping you from addressing your desires with a supervisor. Just inform them that if the class is bump oriented, you are in. If it is not, then you will opt out for a refund or a lesson on another day. Given the current business, they will likely do what they can to get you taken care of.
post #16 of 17
Thanks! I will sign up for some group lessons and see how it goes. After all, I'm sure there is always something to learn!

Hopefully you will be the instructor that week for advanced groups!!!
post #17 of 17
I taught a group at Stowe during the week a Epicski training event was on, and Ric (Vail Snow Pro) was teaching an Epic group, and I have to say he was Mr US Instructor, his group was one lucky group as they got the consumate instructor. His trail selection and pacing of the lessons was perfect and you could see his group was loving every minute.
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