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post #1 of 24
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Skiing Sunday at different points, I heard Ski & Golf hands out, , Ott ski with ease Bong, elbows in MJ, come on throw yourself down the mountain Kath Just believe Kath, again pole touch , pole touch

Getting kinda loud in my head
post #2 of 24
Do the voices say other things like .. "What's the frequency Kenneth?"

I think most of us have forgotten who said that and who got wacked when they did.
post #3 of 24
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Originally posted by Kima:
Skiing Sunday at different points, I heard Ski & Golf hands out, ,

Getting kinda loud in my head
You must have had a vision of what the clinician planned to with our Level 3 candidates as we began cert training this morning. I went along to observe and pick up a few tricks. Very interesting how he used hand position to develop a wider stance, then proceed to preview next weeks clinic on accuracy of movement into the new turn.
post #4 of 24
Talking about accuracy of movement into the new turn, Ski and Golf didn't mention that after the am clinic, he worked with us on skiing improvement and pivot slips. The suggestion that helped me with a personal breakthrough was project your downhill hip forward and into the turn to move you across the skis in the direction of the turn instead of straight up in the air. This allowed earlier edge engagement for a much more controlled carving turn at high speed.

Thanks S&G. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

Bong
post #5 of 24
>>>Ott: ski with ease<<<

Kima, S&G, Bob, Rusty and all the great teachers you have had and will encounter in the future try to get you to that point: TO SKI WITH EASE.

It means you no longer have to think about what, how or when things happen in your skiing, they just do, and then you have arrived.

Teaching good skiing is infinitely harder than just doing it.

....Ott
post #6 of 24
Quote:
Originally posted by yuki:
Do the voices say other things like .. "What's the frequency Kenneth?" I think most of us have forgotten who said that and who got wacked when they did.
OK, I'll bite ...

1st guess: The guy that attacked Dan Rather?
2nd guess: REM for referring to the above incident?

Tom / PM

[ December 01, 2003, 10:23 PM: Message edited by: PhysicsMan ]
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post #8 of 24
The only voice I hear is Ben Kenobi's.
post #9 of 24
I hear voices in my head.
Last night they had a big row.
I think they are going to get divorced.
I hope the good one gets custody of my head, but I know the bad one would really like to break my head up and take half of it for herself.
post #10 of 24
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by bong:
Talking about accuracy of movement into the new turn, Ski and Golf didn't mention that after the am clinic, he worked with us on skiing improvement and pivot slips. The suggestion that helped me with a personal breakthrough was project your downhill hip forward and into the turn to move you across the skis in the direction of the turn instead of straight up in the air. This allowed earlier edge engagement for a much more controlled carving turn at high speed.

Thanks S&G. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

Bong
How do you boil that down to a Mantra?
post #11 of 24
Quote:
Originally posted by bong:
Talking about accuracy of movement into the new turn, Ski and Golf ...worked with us ... The suggestion that helped me with a personal breakthrough was project your downhill hip forward and into the turn to move you across the skis in the direction of the turn instead of straight up in the air. This allowed earlier edge engagement for a much more controlled carving turn at high speed.
This is a superb tip for higher level skiers that are already carving well and carrying lots of speed across the hill, but not getting edge right after crossover.

If you think about it, the classical "face downhill and bend" type of angulation allows you to get extra edge against gravity and centrifugal force in the last part of the turn. OTOH, the movement S&G suggested allows you to angulate in a direction that is hard to do, namely outward against centrifugal force right after transition. This is another reason to go through transition in "neutral" and not carrying a lot of counter from the end of the last turn.

This tip has helped me a lot, but I know that I don't quite own the movement yet due to decades of practice with the older, subtly different technique.

Good tip, S&G.

Tom / PM

PS - Note to self: Practice this one!!
post #12 of 24
Kima,
How about a take off of Bob Barnes tip for for turns "Right tip right, left tip left"? (pun intended [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img] )

Think "Right hip right, left hip left".

Does this make sense? :

Tom/PM,
You're absolutely right, this movement does take a bit of time to own, but S&G commented on how it changed my skiing when I got it right. Still working on it though.

Getting lots of good stuff to add to my toolbox!! :

Come play with us at Copper and we can practice this.

Bong
post #13 of 24
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by bong:
Kima,
How about a take off of Bob Barnes tip for for turns "Right tip right, left tip left"? (pun intended [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img] )

Think "Right hip right, left hip left".

Does this make sense? :

Come play with us at Copper and we can practice this.

Bong
As a matter of fact it does. [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #14 of 24
Quote:
Originally posted by Kima:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by bong:
Kima,
How about a take off of Bob Barnes tip for for turns "Right tip right, left tip left"? (pun intended [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img] )

Think "Right hip right, left hip left".

Does this make sense? :

Come play with us at Copper and we can practice this.

Bong
As a matter of fact it does. [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>[/quote]Just remember there is a difference between the hip projection move, which is subtle, and hip rotation.
post #15 of 24
Copper is turning into Epic Ski Central. We just hired three more Bears as instructors to add to the five that are already here. Heck, we have a mini-Gathering nearly every day! Hope more of you can come out to ski with us!

[ December 02, 2003, 05:44 PM: Message edited by: mike_m ]
post #16 of 24
Whom did you hire, Mike? Chris Geib said he skied with you last weekend.

....Ott
post #17 of 24
Hi, Ott!
Jim Rooney, Eileen Brown and Tom Burch. Not bad, huh?! Yep, Chris and his family came out for a week. Great time. We're hooking up again at the Eastern Tune-up.
Hope you and the family are well!

[ December 02, 2003, 09:41 PM: Message edited by: mike_m ]
post #18 of 24
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Originally posted by Ski&Golf:
Just remember there is a difference between the hip projection move, which is subtle, and hip rotation.
Subtle is the word.

BTW, isn't the latter sometimes called the (famous/infamous) 'troller roll?

Tom / PM
post #19 of 24
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[quote]Originally posted by Ott Gangl:
>>>Ott: ski with ease<<<

Kima, S&G, Bob, Rusty and all the great teachers you have had and will encounter in the future try to get you to that point: TO SKI WITH EASE.

It means you no longer have to think about what, how or when things happen in your skiing, they just do, and then you have arrived.

Teaching good skiing is infinitely harder than just doing it.

....Ott
[quote]

Ott, when I hear your voice it is because I think I am in trouble and have tensed up. I use the ski with ease mantra to relax, let my skis do thier thing for a moment. I am far from the point of not having to think about it.
post #20 of 24
Kima, give it time, it will come......Ott
post #21 of 24
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by Ott Gangl:
Kima, give it time, it will come......Ott
post #22 of 24
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by mike_m:
Hope more of you can come out to ski with us!
OK, when?
post #23 of 24
Come out anytime! Heck, we're all here until April! Send a PM and we'll try to hook up!
post #24 of 24
Quote:
Originally posted by Kima:
I am far from the point of not having to think about it.[/QB]
Think of effortless power not powerful effort
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