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Park City's easiest black signature run

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What is Park City's easiest black run or signature run?
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Six Bells.


actually, no, probably Crescent, when it's well groomed.
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They're not blacks, let's be honest. If they can get groomers down them, they're not black. Crescent is a good call, Silver King I always thought was the gentlest fall, and because few ski it, it didn't get roughed up. Not sure if they groom it that often though.

I hit it at the end of a blizzard day some years back, it'd been groomed 2 days prior, and not skiied much, and then I made only tracks down it after a day of snowfall on my way home.

Still remember it, the perfect end to a perfect day.
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They're not blacks, let's be honest. If they can get groomers down them, they're not black. Crescent is a good call, Silver King I always thought was the gentlest fall, and because few ski it, it didn't get roughed up. Not sure if they groom it that often though.

I hit it at the end of a blizzard day some years back, it'd been groomed 2 days prior, and not skiied much, and then I made only tracks down it after a day of snowfall on my way home.

Still remember it, the perfect end to a perfect day.

ant says....."If they can get a groomer down it, it's not black."

Huh???? Since when does grooming have anything to do with rateing a trail??
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What is Park City's easiest black run or signature run?

Silver skis.
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Huh???? Since when does grooming have anything to do with rateing a trail??
I am pretty sure runs like Outer Limits at Killington would be black and not double black when it's groomed.

Grooming makes things EASIER. Of course grooming effects the rating. If a black run is groomed [in the western region of the US], then 75% of the time it's a very easy black run.

Just my $.02.

But Silver Skis is supposedly 34 degrees at the top says there website... I bet it's not and mismeasured.
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I am pretty sure runs like Outer Limits at
But Silver Skis is supposedly 34 degrees at the top says there website... I bet it's not and mismeasured.


The top is pretty steep, but it levels down quickly.
Before the Cresent lift, these runs were some of the best sustained powder vertical on the mountain. Now everyone can get there...boo hoo
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I am pretty sure runs like Outer Limits at Killington would be black and not double black when it's groomed.

Grooming makes things EASIER. Of course grooming effects the rating. If a black run is groomed [in the western region of the US], then 75% of the time it's a very easy black run.

Just my $.02.

But Silver Skis is supposedly 34 degrees at the top says there website... I bet it's not and mismeasured.

I love the website highlighted in your post!

What do you suppose the pitch of the far skiers right on Blue Slip Bowl is?
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I am pretty sure runs like Outer Limits at Killington would be black and not double black when it's groomed.

Grooming makes things EASIER. Of course grooming effects the rating. If a black run is groomed [in the western region of the US], then 75% of the time it's a very easy black run.

Just my $.02.

But Silver Skis is supposedly 34 degrees at the top says there website... I bet it's not and mismeasured.

Ya, ok?? Come to Sugarloaf and I will ski you on groomed blacks all day long. Real blacks. It is absolutely false that grooming has anything to do with rateing a trail. No, I don't see any double blacks groomed but, a groomed black run is entirely legit. Umm, oh......have you ever seen a winch cat in operation?? Didn't think so.
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ya Ovation at Killington is way steeper than Outer Limits and it's always been groomed when I've skied it.

But I don't care, just sayin ...

There's some over on Thaynes side too that aren't too bad. But those mentioned on the front side I'd agree with
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I love the website highlighted in your post!

What do you suppose the pitch of the far skiers right on Blue Slip Bowl is?
Thanks!

Where is this Blue Slip Bowl?

BTW, I update it only like once a week do to schoolwork and only do eastern runs... for now.................
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Blue Slip Bowl is at Park City Mountain Resort at the top of the Thaynes Lift. I thought the far skiers right of the bowl was more steep than any of the other double black diamond trails that were open during a recent trip there. We skied them all multiple times and this seemed steeper than Jupiter and Mckonkey's.
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Funny, I was there last weekend and thought I was heading to Blue Slip Bowl when I went through the gate right near the top/right under the Pioneer lift, then turned left through the trees into Blue Slip. Nice snow there. Half of it was groomed; half of it was not. The ungroomed part was more fun.

As far as "black" groomers go, check out Silver Skis or Glory Hole for longer runs; my wife, who hates moguls, liked those.
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Thanks!

Where is this Blue Slip Bowl?
At the summit of PCMR (which is not the highest point). It's kind of just off the Pioneer chair, and below the top of Summit chair. it's called blue slip because it used to be out of bounds, and if staff were caught in it (as it avalanches), they got sacked. Apparently, in the US, a blue slip is some kind of severance notice.

They began grooming strips of it while I was there, which harmed its "extreme' reputation rather a lot. The pitch through the pine trees under Pioneer is a lot more exciting! One of my favourite areas at PCMR is further through the trees... 10th mountain. Tourists don't find it.
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If it can be groomed, it's not over 40 degrees which is the maximum for a winch cat.

I thought double blacks were never groomed (in the Western US)?
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Well Skiking4, seems like they're grooming all kinds of "blacks" these days, but apparently they're still blacks.

Marketing works.
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Well Skiking4, seems like they're grooming all kinds of "blacks" these days, but apparently they're still blacks.

Marketing works.
Yup.
post #18 of 21
I'll take a stab at the original question and say that the 'easiest' signature run, IMO, is Widowmaker and along with that the 'easiest' black is Naildriver, right next to Widowmaker.
No idea about max pitches for winch cats, but I do recall seeing McConkey's bowl groomed from the top about 3 or 4 years ago...that had to be an exciting night for the grooming crew!
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Those tough-sounding names, btw, aren't quite so tough. Widowmaker and Naildriver are from the mining days. PCMR is actually a big mining lease, and the mines are still active.... because ti would cost too much to shut the mines down and do all the remedial work. The widowmaker was some kind of drill that pumped out a lot of fine dust that killed a lot of miners with it. The bumps on that are fun, especially after a fall of snow.
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This is Blue Slip Bowl.

 

I stopped as I was skiing it and snapped this photo.  I would be surprised if it could be groomed.

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Those tough-sounding names, btw, aren't quite so tough. Widowmaker and Naildriver are from the mining days. PCMR is actually a big mining lease, and the mines are still active.... because ti would cost too much to shut the mines down and do all the remedial work. The widowmaker was some kind of drill that pumped out a lot of fine dust that killed a lot of miners with it. The bumps on that are fun, especially after a fall of snow.

This is McKonkey's Bowl looking up.  We stopped as we were skiing down.  You may say they are not "tough" but I would venture to say that most who post here may have difficulty skiing it.

 

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