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looking to buy used Fischer RX8 FTI

post #1 of 11
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I'm new to this post but have enjoyed and learned from the posting.

I'd like to buy a pair of used 160 cm Fischer RX8 FTI with FX 12 Bindings.

I ski around 4 times a year for the past three years. I live in Fort Lauderdale and ski at Stratton and the hills in Wisconsin. I've always rented and I'm tired of doing so.

I finally bought a pair of boots, Dalbello Axion X5. They were the first pair that I tried on, and after trying many others, were purchased because they fit my foot the best.

After buying the boots I skied at Wilmot in Wisconsin. I rented a pair of 155cm '06 Fischer RX8 and whether it was the boots, the skis or both, I had the best time ever skiing.

One week before I skied at West mountain in NY on 160 cm and had a terrible time. The rear entry boots I rented felt way too wide and had a hard time turning. Unfortunately when I tried on another pair I received the same result.

Renting at Stratton I get mixed results; sometimes one boot feels fine the other too tight. I'm glad I have a pair of boots now.

Back to Fischer, I really enjoyed the experience and want to have that as a standard experience.

I'd say I'm inbetween a level 4 and 5. I know the 155 cm are too short for me--6'1/2" 200 lbs, but I felt comfortable and in control with them. That's why I only want to go up to a 160 cm and that's based on what I've read in posts that you should buy up a little.

Anyone out there with a nice pair of used Fischers they want to sell. Any advise on what other ski may fit my experience. Will be used exclusively on midwest and east coast trails.
post #2 of 11
If you're planning to improve significantly, I would hold off -- you'd really want that ski in 170 or 175 at your height/weight, long term.

At your current skill level, you might want to look at an easier, more versatile, more forgiving ski in some intermediate length, like 167-170cm or so. No reason to go after a super short, technical, expert ski like the RX-8 at this point (especially if you need to ski it super short to have a good time).

They made RX-4 and RX-6 skis exactly for skiers like you! Maybe search for those to begin with.
post #3 of 11
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Originally Posted by skier219 View Post
If you're planning to improve significantly, I would hold off -- you'd really want that ski in 170 or 175 at your height/weight, long term.

At your current skill level, you might want to look at an easier, more versatile, more forgiving ski in some intermediate length, like 167-170cm or so. No reason to go after a super short, technical, expert ski like the RX-8 at this point (especially if you need to ski it super short to have a good time).

They made RX-4 and RX-6 skis exactly for skiers like you! Maybe search for those to begin with.
Excellent advice. The RX-6 should be ideal for the OP. And longer than he thought !

However, I feel that I should come to the defence of the RX-8, which seems to be unfairly labelled a 'one-trick pony' these days, and as you say a 'super-short' ski (ironically this ski was 'the greatest thing since sliced bread a couple of years ago !!). BUT, I would like to sing the praise of the 175cm RX-8 which is an altogether different ski to it's smaller brothers - it's quite a beast; short, medium and long turns are ripped off sweet and the top speed, err, well I haven't found it yet (level 7ish skier).

Simply, the RX-8 is very length dependant and shouldn't be dismissed by skiers as a short turn, slower speed ski. Most intermediate/advanced skiers will love it, especially at the longer lengths !!
post #4 of 11
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If I hold off i'm still going to be skiing a 155-160. Is that bad for my height/weight?

What does the term mean when you say the skis will be more foregiving?

Thanks again for your imput, it's appreciated.
post #5 of 11
I have a pair of RX Fire 8 in 170cm with brand new 11-DIN Tyrolia bindings that I would sell for $350 shipped. It's the 2008 version of the RX8, like this: http://www.ski-depot.com/miva/mercha...oduct_Count=16

I bought them new this fall and have used them around 4 half-days up in VT (using older beat up bindings so the new Tyrolia's are untouched, and I can swap easily due to the Railflex system). Edges are hand tuned to 1deg base, 3 deg side bevels, and are sharp with no burrs or dings. They've had about 10 hot wax / scrape cycles.

Having put my hat in the ring you may discount the following comments, but here's my take on the size and suitability question.

I think the 160 cm would be too short for you. I'm a more advanced skier than you but only weigh 170lbs. I've been on a lot of carving skis, including "consumer" and "race stock" SL and GS skis. I purchased the RX8 in a longer length than conventional wisdom perhaps at my weight (which probably would be 165 cm), seeking added versatility and stability at speed. The versatility is there for sure; no tradeoff in the terrain and turn shape option at 170cm in the RX8 compared to slalom skis I've had at 156 - 165cm range. On the other hand, it is a light and forgiving ski and I am not as comfortable as I'd like when I hammer it on hardpack. Hence I'd like to sell the ski while it's still near new and in good condition, and I will look for something burlier to replace it.

Another factor -- until you get up to race stock skis where most everything requires expertise, the "beginner" "intermediate" "expert" ski designations on many skis is just relative, and the skier's weight is another factor. You're relatively heavy at 200 lbs and might exert the same force on an RX8 relative to your skill level as a lighter skier on an RX4 or RX6. I'm not sure I expressed that right but bottom line: size matters.

Let me know if you're interested.
post #6 of 11
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Kind of funny ts 01 I was just reading your post about you chasing down your kids at mach speed and that you were thinking of selling your rx8's
post #7 of 11
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TS 01 -- the largest ski i've ever skied is a 160 cm and they were not fun as my rental boots were too wide. I'm 46 years old and not afraid to admit that i'm intimidated by 170 cm. I had a blast on the rx8 155cm and figure to go to a used 160cm. That's only a two inch increase. If I do a 170 cm that's almost a 1/2 foot increase.

After reading many of these posts and other internet info I realize that i'm still skiing like i'm using straight skis as I did in the '80's. I need a lesson to learn how to carve.

Again, all I know is that when I was wearing my new boots and using the 155 cm '06 rx8 rentals I was having a blast in Wisconsin. I was passing people, making good turns (that i've now learned were skids) and I hit every run on that hill; even the expert ones. I went slowly but I did them. I want to have fun and not worry if I can turn and control a longer ski. I'd also like to know what exactly it is that makes me feel comfortable on a short ski and not a long ski.
post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by Resipsa62 View Post
TS 01 -- the largest ski i've ever skied is a 160 cm and they were not fun as my rental boots were too wide. I'm 46 years old and not afraid to admit that i'm intimidated by 170 cm. I had a blast on the rx8 155cm and figure to go to a used 160cm. That's only a two inch increase. If I do a 170 cm that's almost a 1/2 foot increase.

After reading many of these posts and other internet info I realize that i'm still skiing like i'm using straight skis as I did in the '80's. I need a lesson to learn how to carve.

Again, all I know is that when I was wearing my new boots and using the 155 cm '06 rx8 rentals I was having a blast in Wisconsin. I was passing people, making good turns (that i've now learned were skids) and I hit every run on that hill; even the expert ones. I went slowly but I did them. I want to have fun and not worry if I can turn and control a longer ski. I'd also like to know what exactly it is that makes me feel comfortable on a short ski and not a long ski.
The longer the ski the more influence those edges digging into the hill have on what the ski does. With a shorter ski, you can throw your weight around and force the ski to pivot and point where you want it to, and to some extent despite what the edges are doing. With the longer ski you have to tip the ski and shift your weight correctly so that those edges digging into the snow make the ski turn where you want it to. It's much harder to fight a longer ski, but much more rewarding to work with it.

Also manipulating a ski tip that is farther away is harder than manipulating one that is close. You have to be more accurate with a longer ski.
post #9 of 11
Stated length is only one of many factors that affects how you like a ski and what it can do for you. Boots are a huge factor and it sounds like it's hard for you to isolate out the ski from the boot at this point. I'm not going to hard sell the 170 but you might want to off from the 160s at this point and demo a few skis in different lengths the next time you're out there before committing to a particular model and length.

FWIW I'm 47 yrs old and just learned to ski at 40; never skied straight skis at all. Don't know if I carve, skid, or cartwheel, I just have fun.
post #10 of 11
To expand on what Ghost said, a short ski can often induce a "hero" effect because you don't need good technique to ski on it and have fun. Going back to the question about a ski being forgiving, well the short ski is extremely forgiving in the sense that it is a lot less demanding of you.

Skiing short is OK, but I think it locks people into a rut -- there may never be impetus to improve and learn to ski better. If you do improve, a longer ski will offer more control and more performance, and that, to me, makes them a lot more rewarding to ski.
post #11 of 11
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Originally Posted by Roy B View Post
Excellent advice. The RX-6 should be ideal for the OP. And longer than he thought !

However, I feel that I should come to the defence of the RX-8, which seems to be unfairly labelled a 'one-trick pony' these days, and as you say a 'super-short' ski (ironically this ski was 'the greatest thing since sliced bread a couple of years ago !!). BUT, I would like to sing the praise of the 175cm RX-8 which is an altogether different ski to it's smaller brothers - it's quite a beast; short, medium and long turns are ripped off sweet and the top speed, err, well I haven't found it yet (level 7ish skier).

Simply, the RX-8 is very length dependant and shouldn't be dismissed by skiers as a short turn, slower speed ski. Most intermediate/advanced skiers will love it, especially at the longer lengths !!
I had the RX-8 in 180cm (they stopped making that length in the last 2-3 years the ski was available). It was a great ski. I liked it in everything but crud, where it could be maddening to ski.
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