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Need help finding new skis - What do you guys think?

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
Great forum here, with some great information!!

After using the search function, I figured I'd post my specific situation, and some of the skis I've read about here, and see what everyone thinks?

About me:

32 years old, 5'7" and 170lbs. Been skiing about 12 years now, and just moved out to Colorado last year, and plan to get the most out of my Epic and Winter Park/Mary Jane season passes.

As of now, I ski(or attempt) pretty much everything. I enjoy the more difficult runs, as well as the occasional trip to the terrain park, as well as some off trail stuff.

My current skis are Dynastar Big Max 2's, and have NEVER been happy with them, but then again I bought them in a ski shop in Florida.

I don't what what rating system you guys use for ability, but on a 1-10 scale, I'd be a solid 7-8.

I was pretty set on the K2 Apache Recons, but after some reading here, they just don't seem like they are that popular. I plan on demoing some this week prior to heading to Winter Park for two weeks, but from my reading here, I've seen some other skis mentioned and was wondering if some of you can explain to me what the differences are and what I should be looking at more closely.

K2-
*Explorer
*Recon
Dynastar:
*8K
Nordica:
*Top Fuel
*Jet Fuel
Vokhl:
*AC40
*AC50
Head:
*IM82

Hopefully some of you can help me narrow this list down as well as help me on sizing. I was figuring 170's, but what do I know?


Thanks in advance for the help!!


John
post #2 of 13
If you delete the Recon, your list has the best of the best in that catagory.
post #3 of 13
I'd delete the Recon and the Explorer as they're pretty much the same ski (the explorer is a bit wider). I might suggest adding the Mythic Rider and the Head IM88 as they are both a great width for general CO skiing
post #4 of 13
If you study (and believe) the tests by Ski and Skiing the Recon may be the most versatile ski around. Yet they are not popular here at Epic. I think the thing that makes it unpopular is that it is good everywhere but shines no-where but in long turns and speed. Again, that's if you believe the numbers. It's been said it is, "The ski of choice for a quiver of one."

The problem is, in Colorado you pretty much need a quiver of (at least) two. One for "on piste" and one for "off piste".

I'm looking for an "off piste" ski (that will still work in bumps and on the groomers between the steep, deep and tree runs.) I'm demo'ing the Xplorers tomorrow. Except for having 20 years on the OP in the age department, the rest of the vitals are about the same. I'm headed out on the 170's and I'll let you know how it goes!
post #5 of 13
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Originally Posted by snofun3 View Post
If you delete the Recon, your list has the best of the best in that catagory.
Those of you who don't like the Recon......

What is it you don't like?
post #6 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the responses so far guys!!

After readin some of the responses, I realized that I left out that even though I'm not that great at them, I do enjoy attempting bump runs, and a ski that performs on bums as well would be great.

I'm sure that all of the skis I'm looking at will be a huge improvement over my current setup.

Thanks so far, and keep the info coming.
post #7 of 13
I understand the Recons aren't well regarded here. I haven't skied them but it sure is a popular ski. It might be worth it to demo them.

I'm skiing this year's 8ks and loving them. Rode them today in over 6" of fresh powder at Sunday River and they were absolutely fantastic. They don't get deflected easily and hold a good edge on true east coast hardpack.

Good luck in your search.
post #8 of 13
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Uncle Louie View Post
If you study (and believe) the tests by Ski and Skiing the Recon may be the most versatile ski around. Yet they are not popular here at Epic. I think the thing that makes it unpopular is that it is good everywhere but shines no-where but in long turns and speed. Again, that's if you believe the numbers. It's been said it is, "The ski of choice for a quiver of one."

The problem is, in Colorado you pretty much need a quiver of (at least) two. One for "on piste" and one for "off piste".

I'm looking for an "off piste" ski (that will still work in bumps and on the groomers between the steep, deep and tree runs.) I'm demo'ing the Xplorers tomorrow. Except for having 20 years on the OP in the age department, the rest of the vitals are about the same. I'm headed out on the 170's and I'll let you know how it goes!
Please let me know what you think about them after you demo them.

Today I'm going out to find/fit new boots.

Anyone else?
post #9 of 13
Thread Starter 
Just a quick question after getting back from my local ski shops:

What would be the major differences between the Dynastar Legend 8K and the Vokhl AC50's?
post #10 of 13
The Legend is a graceful mid-fat all mountain ski that is very versatile, and can handle a range of hard and soft snow conditions well. It has a moderate sidecut. Very nice, easygoing ski, but extremely capable in the hands of a good skier.

The AC50 is basically a heavy wide carver; it "ostensibly" is an all conditions ski, but the construction and general sizing makes it more of a hard snow ski in my opinion. Also a good ski for what it is, but I'd choose the Legend in a heartbeat.
post #11 of 13
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Originally Posted by Uncle Louie View Post
Those of you who don't like the Recon......

What is it you don't like?
Do a search and read the many comments.

It just doesn't do much particularly well, whereas most of the other skis initially mentioned do most things very well. It was the most underwhelming of what I've been on the past couple of years, and I've been on everything on your list plus quite a few more.

Notice the couple of 8k mentions - there's a big hint there.

K2 sells a lot of Recons. McDonald's sells a lot of burgers. Bose sells a lot of speakers. None of which I'd want to partake in.

If you believe the Ski and Skiing reviews, Deer Valley's the #1 place in the US. Count how many ad pages k2 takes in the mags and connect the dots.
post #12 of 13
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by skier219 View Post
The Legend is a graceful mid-fat all mountain ski that is very versatile, and can handle a range of hard and soft snow conditions well. It has a moderate sidecut. Very nice, easygoing ski, but extremely capable in the hands of a good skier.

The AC50 is basically a heavy wide carver; it "ostensibly" is an all conditions ski, but the construction and general sizing makes it more of a hard snow ski in my opinion. Also a good ski for what it is, but I'd choose the Legend in a heartbeat.
Thanks. I plan on demoing the Recons, AC50's and the 8K's at the very least.

Living and skiing in Colorado, is there any other skis I'm missing that I should be looking at?
post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by motoracer51 View Post
Living and skiing in Colorado, is there any other skis I'm missing that I should be looking at?
Looks like most of what you are considering is in the 80 under foot catagory or there abouts.

I'm looking at the Recons, Watea 94, Blizzard Magnum 8.7 and 8.1.

A little larger under foot, I'm looking at Volkl Katana, Line Profit 100 and Head Supermojo 105.

I did a report on the Xplorers here, in case you missed it.

http://forums.epicski.com/showpost.p...18&postcount=1
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