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is it wrong to love a big ski?

post #1 of 10
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I learned on kneissl 205 - many, many years ago. But 3 years ago i went and bought my first set of shaped skis. The salesman put me into Atomic Metron B5 162cm. I am 5'10" 195 lbs and can ski black diamond groomers but hate bumps (knees are 50 yeears old). The metrons were a harsh mistress to learn the new ski style on. Like an Austrian governess , the minute you stray or neglect her, she will slam you down. The ski has a short radius (11m) and when it is on edge tracks like a train but it doesnt like ambiguity or air (they weigh a ton). The sweet spot of this ski is slalom. I learned to load it up coming out of a turn and actually accelerate going down the hill like a slingshot.

But I dont like to work so hard and want to take bigger turns. And today it snowed BIG TIME in central massachusetts. 8 inches (dont laugh you westerners) I tried a Volkl AC50 172 cm. What a dream. If the metron is a porsche, the volkl is a lexus. A real dreamy ski that floats. Yes it will carve but much softer than the metron.

I also demoed a K2 explorer at 184 cm. This felt like a cadillac. I actually flew over the bumps. The length of this beast made it so stable at speed I loved it. I blasted through crud like I had battle cruisers on my feet. Didnt like to turn quickly but then I wasnt looking for that.

I also tried a nordica nitrous at 172 cm. This felt like the metron with an autopilot assist. more forgiving but tracks solid and tight. Couldnt load it as hard as the metron so the slingshot out of the turn was weaker. In fact, it felt slow. But I did feel connected to the mountain, unlike the wider bigger skis.

But I still remember that K2 explorer. At 184 cm! Why are we into little skis these days? I am ready to pull the trigger on that explorer but the fellow at the ski place suggested i also try a salomon hurricane.

I am still a newbie compared to most of you here. In reading these forums, some of you discuss the fine points of skis and their handling with great detail. I feel like I am reading a discussion on the differences between veal piccata and veal francese. I can barely tell chicken and beef apart when it comes to skis.

Am I wrong to go with a big ski? Will it make me sloppy and lazy? I like that dreamy smooth ride ( i guess I am getting old). Out here in the east we rarely get big powder and most of the stuff I ski on is hard packed groomers. But I do go west once a year. Am I confusing the great conditions of today with the skis? How badly will I hate the K2 explorer when I wake up and realize I live in New England? Am I setting myself up for disappointment and a ski divorce?
post #2 of 10
I don't know anything about K2 explorers but there is nothing unusual about a good skier of your size on a 184. People in the East tend to ski shorter skis. I guess it's because the like short radius carvers on the groomed but there is no reason not to ski a longer carver or all mountian groomer oriented ski in the East or anywhere else for that matter.
post #3 of 10
I ski Metrons off and on but man are they heavy 171cm@12.5 TR. I perfer the SL 9 Atomic 170cm@12M TR which is lighter. Sounds like you can ski well and about the only thing the shorter skis do is turn faster than longer ones. You might want to try a longer ski w/ alittle bit bigger TR(170cm@15m). Good Luck on your search.
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1) Am I wrong to go with a big ski? 2) Will it make me sloppy and lazy? I like that dreamy smooth ride ( i guess I am getting old). 3) Out here in the east we rarely get big powder and most of the stuff I ski on is hard packed groomers. But I do go west once a year. 4) Am I confusing the great conditions of today with the skis? 5) How badly will I hate the K2 explorer when I wake up and realize I live in New England? 6) Am I setting myself up for disappointment and a ski divorce?
1) No.
2) Maybe, but probably not. You may find it is the other way round... the 'super sidecut' ski may be doing too much work for you.
3) Well, that's your fault, get out of Massachusettes and ski where there is snow... yes in New England we get snow, you just don't (evidently) ski where it falls. Sugarloaf, Sunday River, Cannon, Wildcat, Sugarbush, MRG, Stowe, Jay Peak... snow. Wachussette, Nashoba... not so much.
4) Probably
5) You need to wake up and realize that you can ski at BETTER places in New England where snow falls. Short of that maybe you'll hate the ski... once again, your choice.
6) Probably not, you liked the 'relaxed ride', that's not going anywhere.
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Am I setting myself up for disappointment and a ski divorce?
There is your problem, never marry a ski... always an affair...never a marriage.

Edit: IF a marriage, think Utah... paligamy.
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There is your problem, never marry a ski... always an affair...never a marriage.

Edit: IF a marriage, think Utah... paligamy.
I've heard this guy really gets around.......
post #7 of 10
I can relate:
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...highlight=tale

You have two separate issues.
1. Turn radius
You need a long radius ski for hard conditions to complement your short radius ski.

2. You need a long radius deep snow ski.

To solve both problems you need at least two more skis.
A deep snow ski won't work well on your hardpack.

My quiver: Fischer WC SC 165 cm (hard snow short radius), Old Kästle Super G 208 cm (high speeds), Volant Machete G 190 cm (deep snow - yes I know modern technology has better to offer, but i'm not rich), recently acquired 188 Volkl P50 F1 (to fill the gap between the SC and SG still looking for cheap binders). I weigh a svelt 165 lbs.

I'm married to all of them (pretty big 'a me isn't it)
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I'm married to all of them (pretty big 'a me isn't it)
You still haven't bought the F1's a ring...
post #9 of 10
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
I can relate:
.....

(pretty big 'a me isn't it)
hahaha

big'a me = bigamy

tnx for your replies. i spent last night dreaming of the k2 in the rockies. what a honeymoon that would be!
post #10 of 10
If you know what you like and have tried some variety, then I wouldn't worry too much about what your supposed to like. Skiing should be fun.
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