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mounting integrated binding on K2 Apache Stryker

post #1 of 14
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I called two service shops and was told that mounting and adjusting the integrated M12 binding onto my new Apache Strykers would cost $75. I took a closer look at the bindings and the skis (there are no instructions) and concluded that all that needs to be done is to push the binding onto the rails that are integrated in the skis and turn a screw at the heels - no drilling involved.

Am I missing something here? How much should I pay for adjusting the skis to my boots, weight, etc.?
post #2 of 14
If you didn't purchase the gear there, most shops want a minimum of $40-50 to setup new skis. I imagine they are just trying to cover their time; they normally do it for free when you buy the gear from them. If you have a relationship with the shop or they are just more reasonably priced, probably $25-40.
post #3 of 14
Where are you located? $75 is a rip off
post #4 of 14
Agreed, $75 is very high for 5-10 minutes of work that doesn't require any special tools.
post #5 of 14
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I am in the Hudson Valley, NY. I called the service shop at Hunter Mountain and Potter Brothers...

I "think" I have figured out how to mount them (you just slide them on the integrated rails and turn a screw that moves a bolt into an opening on the ski to hold them in place). What I am struggling with now is how far I have to move the toe out. There is a scale (265 to 365 in steps of 10). My booth's length is 340 mm, so I moved the toe to 345 and then adjusted the heel backwards so I could get the boot into the binding. Correct? Then I copy the settings from my old Marker binding and I should be done???

If I move the toe to 365 I would have to adjust the heel forward, so my position would be 20 mm more towards the tip of the ski. How would this impact performance?

P.S.: When I am done I will have a pro at a service shop check the settings - they won't charge $75 for that, I hope.
post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by nagyg View Post
I am in the Hudson Valley, NY. I called the service shop at Hunter Mountain and Potter Brothers...

Do the know that this is an integrated binding?

If you simply called, it sounds like you got quoted the standard price to mount skis purchased elsewhere (internet?).
post #7 of 14
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Originally Posted by krp8128 View Post
Do the know that this is an integrated binding?

If you simply called, it sounds like you got quoted the standard price to mount skis purchased elsewhere (internet?).
Maybe, but I told them exactly the model and type of ski and stated that it was an integrated binding. I could hear the guy at Hunter repeat the question to somebody else in the shop and emphasizing "integrated binding".
post #8 of 14
If the boot is 340 and you used the 345 spacing (345 > 340), then I think you would need to move the heel piece *forward*. Right?

You also need to make sure the forward pressure is correct. When the boot is snapped in, the rear adjustment screw should be flush with the housing. Take the boot out before changing that adjustment.
post #9 of 14
We charge the same, be it system or flat. If you buy from stock, no charge. Drilling and mounting isn't that much difference in time from setting up the system binding. Torque testing the binding takes the same amount of time either way.
post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
We charge the same, be it system or flat. If you buy from stock, no charge. Drilling and mounting isn't that much difference in time from setting up the system binding. Torque testing the binding takes the same amount of time either way.
The liability 'exposure' is also the same. Is $75 a lot? On one hand, YES. On the other hand, I'm guessing you saved some cash buying online, part of the 'savings' is lack of service... now you are seeing what that costs, hopefully your savings more than counteracts the 'expense'.
post #11 of 14
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The skis were a gift, so they did not really cost me anything. I was just surprised, as having my skis and the bindings serviced is usually around $50 ...

Anyway, I got interested in the subject and I did some research on the internet. As there is no drilling involved - only sliding the binding onto the integrated rails and turning a screw to lock it in place - the remaining issue is adjusting the binding. Setting the toe and heel release was easy and the settings I read from the charts matched the ones on my old skis. There does not seem to be anything to adjust the toe wings with. I adjusted Forward Pressure so the top of the screw is flush with the housing. Is that the correct setting (please see pictures below)? Am I missing anything?



post #12 of 14
Thread Starter 
I usually pay $50 to have my skis and bindings serviced and so $75 for mounting integrated bindings was somewhat a surprise, but I can understand that ski shops don't want to do this for skis that were not bought there.

After I asked this question on the forum I got curious about the process of mounting bindings and did some research on the internet. I ended up mounting them myself. I set the shoe size, slid the binding onto the integrated rails, turned the screw that keeps it from sliding out, set the DIN release values and Forward Pressure and was done. If you know what you are doing this should not take more than 10 minutes for both bindings...
post #13 of 14
where you from in the Hudson Valley, im from grahamsville and i have an interest in getting back into skiing after 20 yrs out.... did you buy them from potter bros?? i was going to take a ride up to Kingston to check the place out, but if they are not a good shop to deal with i will go elsewhere. thanks
post #14 of 14
Thread Starter 
I got the skis as a gift and they were bought in Utah ... Potter Brothers has an excellent reputation and I think it is the best store in the Hudson Valley. I buy most of my stuff at the stores at Hunter and Wyndham, usually because I forget something.
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