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Old Tuning Equipment, Do i need nw stuff?

post #1 of 6
Thread Starter 
Hey Guys,

I am new on these forums, but i have been skiing for ten years( i am 14) and never really got into tuning my skis. I am getting into racing and my dad has some old stuff he has from a loooonnnnngggg time ago(like 25 years). Here it is

And old scraper that is pretty dull
old iron
lots of wax
regular workshop files

I have a few friends really into it but i have never gotten a good answer that wont cost alot. So my question is what should I be buying? And what is fine?
post #2 of 6
Originally Posted by NewRacer3 View Post

And old scraper that is pretty dullFine if it works, but scrapers are mad cheap

old ironTry it out, if the temperatures seem cosistent, rock on. Just make sure that you don't smoke the wax
lots of wax Maybe ok for training days, I'd go with something else for race day
corkprobably fine
regular workshop filesfiles have really been overtaken by stones. They are good for cutting bevel and initial work, but stones are much better for touch ups. As far as these are concerned, they may be ok still, but out of all tuning tools, a file can do the most damage, you make the call.
Welcome to the tuning world and to Epic. Glad to see some of the younger folks taking an interest in tuning, it's really a great thing to know. You can learn a LOT from this site, I know I have.

My comments are in red (in case you couldn't figure it out. I'm 30 and started tuning when I was around your age, I still have a few items from when I first started. The stuff does last, but you need to think about the implications of what you are doing. Do you trust a 25 year old file on your new race skis>? Or would it just better to get a new one. Common sense can take you far in ski tuning.

I'd buy some file guides, some stones and some brushes. Eventually you will want a vice set. Slidewright.com and Racewax.com are both good sites for tuning supplies run by EpicSki members. Both have lots of stuff and lots of information. In fact I bet both of them will chime in on this thread, trust their knowledge. Tognar.com is another good site, but I say support the EpicSki folks.

Good luck
post #3 of 6
Thread Starter 
thanks for the quick reply. any stone in particular you would reccommend?
post #4 of 6
- Nylon brush
- Fibertex or other pad that look like Scotchbrite green, except you will want the ones in grey and white
- 2nd cut file
- File guide to fit 3 degree side bevels
post #5 of 6
Here's some thoughts on irons from my Tuning Tips section of my site:

Although a domestic clothes iron (new or used) may be a less expensive option, but the damage it can cause due to wide temperature swings can end up costing you. A good wax iron only fluctuates about 4-8 degrees Celsius when waxing. A clothing or small travel iron can fluctuate up to 30 degrees Celsius. The wild swing can easily generate scorching temperatures that burn bases or damage your gear. Choose an iron with a minimum wattage of 800 and a thick (one-third to one-half inch) sole plate with no holes.
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All the stuff you have may be OK. The scraper if it is dull could be sharpened, but they are not that expensive to replace. Rarely use a metal scraper in my own routine- so you may want to add a plastic scraper or 2. To sharpen them get a few sheets of drywall screening.

As for the files, again if the are dull then forget them. If they work and cut fine use them as long as they are not too aggressive and taking too much material- such as a really course file.

I do not have a problem with a standard old clothes iron- I start low on the heat and slowly raise it up to the point of not heating the bases so much that I risk damage to the bases or the wax smokes.

As others have stated- a good brush. If you can only afford 1 universal get a nylon or short horse hair as a second choice.

And as others have stated something in a file guide to fit your skis (3 degrees is common but not all skiers like that if they are in powder regularly and some like to keep their skis at the factory tune so check your brand of skis for the factory default or what the shop that handled your tuning set them for and get a guide to match that if you are happy with they way the ski. If you are skiing ice regularly then 3 degree may actually be an improvement. Some of the guides can handle a short file if it is one like the multi-tuners out there. Otherwise you will need a clamp of some sort to hold the file against the degree specific side edge guides available.

Also the wax you have should be fine to start with if it is anyhting universal (unless it is way off temperature wise from where you ski) Even if you race, I find the wax does not break down and have won races on 15 year old wax that is out of production and no longer available. If nothing else use some of it for cleaning and hot scraping the skis and get something suitable for your temperature conditions and snow type you encounter the most. Hydrocarbon or low flouro are the cheapest if you do not race at all then they should be a good safe starting point in anyone's wax line.
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