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What could be causing these pressure points?

post #1 of 5
Thread Starter 
After looking everywhere for boots in my size 25.5, I found at REI decent pair of old Salomon Impact 9s (I have previous tried Impact 8s at the store) and ordered them along with a pair of Falcon 9s, with an intent to return them if they don't fit (REI offers refunds).

The Falcons I couldn't even get buckled, I'm not sure why. I've gone into enough boots, and this seems like it was designed for a tiny calve.

The impacts I liked, but I tried sitting in them (to figure out how they would feel on the lift) for nearly an hour and have two problems with them that look like potential showstoppers

- In the left (bigger foot), I can easily curl my toes, which is good, though they press against the front if I lean backwards. However, I feel pressure and with time also a little pain in the back of the foot, from the base to about 2 inches or so up the back (which I would assume is my Achilles tendon).

- In the right foot, which is smaller, I felt very comfortable (only a little achiless discomfort), but when I took them off and the socks off I felt the tingling in the toes (primarily to the right) which suggests that circulation wasn't good.

Any idea what could cause these problems? Is this something that a proper fit could fix (preferably without modifying the shell itself)? With a baby on the way I'm mostly going to be skiing here in Pittsburgh and very likely won't have the chance to go to a real fitter to buy boots this season, though I may be able to get some work done.

Another store in the area (the one where I actually have credit at from returning a badly-fitted boot) has the Foil and Impact 8s in my size, but I'm worried this problem would be the same in those as well.
post #2 of 5
Hey, if REI has such a generous return policy why not just ski in a boot for awhile and if it doesn't work take it back and grab another and repeat until you are happy? Now if you can find a good fitter to properly size and select a model that is right for you and does the necessary work, you will be spending more time skiing and less time shopping.

just a thought...
post #3 of 5
Thread Starter 
I doubt REI would take it back used.
What I'm wondering is whether or not the problem I am feeling with the achiless area and heel meens that this one is a horrible fit for me, or just that it needs some work.

I wish I could get out of the Pittsburgh area and find a decent fitter, but unfortunately, doesn't look like that this season
post #4 of 5
What are you doing when you feel the Achilles pressure? are you just sitting down for an hour straight?

Are you standing and leaning forward against the boot tongue as you would (should...) while skiing? Ski boots have 'forward lean', if you try to stand upright it will put a lot of pressure on this area... that isn't necessarily a 'red flag', it just means DON'T DO THAT. You shouldn't ever be standing straight upright (or leaning back) in a ski boot. If the pressure is there while leaning forward then it might be a problem, do you occasionally unbuckle the boots during the hour in them? With new boots you will need to 'break them in' which takes a couple days of skiing, it's a good idea to unbuckle them for lift rides to allow good circulation and let your feet relax. I understand that you are trying them out at home and not skiing in them, I'm just saying keeping them buckled for an hour without standing and flexing them (simulate a ski run) then unbuckling them (simulate a lift ride) isn't really giving them a chance.

Do a shell fit.

Wear them in the living room, flex as if skiing, unbuckle and watch TV for a few minutes, re-buckle and flex again...

hope this helps.
post #5 of 5
please read this and answer:

basic question: shell fit em, and see how they fit

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=74836



So your boots hurt and you don’t know what to do?

First thing, find a good boot fitter in YOUR area. Trying to fit boots, problem solving over the phone, or online is VERY hard to do. This is not like making a cake by a following a recipe (and I can’t do that either) but more like being told how to paint (as told by Stevie Wonder)

So a few questions that you can answer that will help this out.

1) What is the shell fit like for length? Remove the liner, put your foot in the shell only, have your toes lightly touching the front of the boot and see how much room is behind your heel and the boots shell. Use a pen as a spacer and measure this for thickness. You want 5-15mm (3/16 to 5/8 inch) of room. If you have more then 25mm (1") stop here

2) What is the shell fit like for width? Now center your foot front to back, (same amount of room behind the toe and heel) and is the width of your foot touching the sides of the boots shell? You want anything from lightly brushing to 2mm per side. If you have 3mm per side stop here.

3) Do you have any footbeds? Most people find an off the rack, or full custom footbed more comfortable, and helps to hold the foot in place better, Get one.

So if your boot is within all of the above parameters we can go on. If your boot is just too big it is not worth working on. Your foot will still move around; you have to over tighten the buckles, and cramp to foot and cut off circulation (cold toes). Your boots are too big, and nothing will make that much better. Don’t waste your time, and money fixing a broken leg with bandaids. You need boots that are 1-2 sizes smaller. If you really want work on what you have, a boot fitter can do some-things, but it will not get much better, and will be $50 - $150 for not much progress.

So now that your boot is within a workable size range in length, width and with a supportive footbed we can go on to getting more info.

A few basic things to check first:

1) You just have one, thin, clean ski sock in the boots
2) You just have a sock in the boot? (no thermals, jewelry, etc)
3) Your toe nails are trimmed short?
4) They are YOUR boots and not borrowed?
5) You are just skiing in your ski boots? (not walking, driving etc)?
6) You dry your liners out at night either with a dryer or remove liners?
7) The left liner, the left footbed are in the left boot and this is on the left foot?
8) You are loosening the buckles if you are not skiing (while standing, on lifts, etc)
9) You are not skiing all day in new boots? They need time to break in
10) Buckles are pointing to the outside?


So your boots are the right size, AND you are doing everything else right, but still the boots are not 100% right. These questions will help a boot fitter will have a better understanding of the problem and can start to help you:

Better Or Worse = (BOW)

1) BOW with the buckles tighter or looser?

2) BOW with thinner or thicker socks?

3) BOW with any footbeds (custom, stock, none, etc)?

4) BOW skiing, standing, or feet un-weighted (hanging off a chair lift)?

5) BOW throughout the day (and when does the pain start?)

6) BOW on the first vs the third day?

7) BOW on harder or easier terrain?

8) BOW with the power straps (Velcro straps) tighter or looser?

9) BOW if you do any particular movements, or actions?

10) Any medical, health, or weight changes since you used them last?
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