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Watea 84, im82, Mag 82ti, or 888?

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Thread Starter 
I’m getting back into skiing after going to the dark side for the past 15 years.
Technically I didn’t go fully to the dark sidem I rode an alpine snowboard setup (read: hard boots + all mountain board).
I rode everything on the mountain with no problems, except the park and pipe.

Me: 5’11”, 180lbs, 36, was a level 8+ skier…hope to get back there.
Location: Colorado
Terrain: Little bit of everything – trees, freshies, carving the cord, steeps, slow skiing with the family, crud, etc.
I prefer turning and making bigger turns than simply pointing ‘em downhill and going mach 10 on the groomers.
Prefer something that you can get lazy on and not have to be aggressive and on the gas all of time.

I am looking for the one quiver wonder…something that does well at everything, minus the extremes of course.

I first started off thinking the Monster im78 was for me…I was convinced of this, almost.
Then I did some more reading and searching and decided a mid 80’s would be better for my desires.

So, now the short list is:

1. Head Monster Im82 (171 or 177?)
2. Fischer Watea 84 (176)
3. Fischer Watea 94 (too wide? But sounds like it’s still quick edge to edge)
4. Elan Magfire 82ti (176)
5. Elan 888 (177)

I realize it would be best to demo them all, but I don’t have that luxury and am looking to get something used or a good deal on a closeout.

After all the searching and reading and more searching I have reached the analysis paralysis.
What would be the quick summary and recommendation on the boards above?

Thanks and cheers!
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Thread Starter 

Watea 84, im82, Mag 82ti, or 888?

I now realize my mistake on the original title.
Can I change that or has that option expired as I don't see an edit post button.

Looking for thoughts, opinions, or recommendations on the above skis.
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Title changed.
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You could go eanie, meanie, minie , moe and not back a bad choice with that selection.
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You can't make a mistake with that lineup. Personally prefer the Monster 82 for it's stability at speed and crud capabilities.
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Originally Posted by swampyankee View Post
You can't make a mistake with that lineup. Personally prefer the Monster 82 for it's stability at speed and crud capabilities.
In a 177
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Agree with above comments about all being nice skis. Watea might be easiest/most relaxed/most foregiving but also probably least solid on hard surfaces...im82 and Mag 82ti a bit more aggressive (but less float on nice pow days). I haven't been on 888 but I suspect it's the best crud buster of the bunch, especially when the crud piles are sizable. But definitely right to go mid-80s not high 70s for your purposes.

Another option: Crimson might split the diff a bit between characteristics of the two 82s and the two more soft snow oriented skis you're looking at. It's 86 at waist, very easy to ski, light, playful, does well in everything but super hard/icy/refrozen crud conditions. Has a fair amount of sidecut, but I didn't find it hooky...would be very comfortable for laid back easy/slow skiing with family and certainly can be pushed pretty hard on more demanding terrain. It just gets somewhat chattery and unstable at speed on frozen stuff (but Watea will too). The new Ti version of the Crimson might address that weakness (I haven't skied it), but would probably be more demanding overall and sounds like you're looking for something more foregiving/relaxed. Crimson also really easy to demo if you want to take it for a test drive.
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For Colorado, I think the Watea would be OK as an everyday all-mtn ski. How often do you encounter ice out there? If hard snow performance is important, the Head iM82 is a great choice. Not as light, snappy, or nimble as the Watea, but smoother and significantly more damped. Still skis well in soft snow.
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1. Head Monster Im82 (171 or 177?)
2. Fischer Watea 84 (176)
3. Fischer Watea 94 (too wide? But sounds like it’s still quick edge to edge)
4. Elan Magfire 82ti (176)
5. Elan 888 (177)

You have a fine list there, if I do say so m'self!

iM82: go 177 for your height. A great do-it-all ski: for Colorado, most of the time, you won't need anything wider, and it will be super fun for those times you are skiing bumps and haven't seen snow in weeks.
Watea 84: similar, but lighter, not quite as stable, just a different feel.
Watea 94: also a good choice, a little more sluggish edge to edge, obviously better in soft snow.
Elan 888: what I took with me to Aspen last year: and probably the only ski I would want on most days. I can ski anything, and it was perfect on the 12-14" new I was skiing the last day there. You are lucky: with dry snow, a mid-fat is plenty of ski width for pretty much everything.
Elan Magfire 82ti: another stellar performer. I actually feel it to be a more fun ski than the iM82, but it has a bit more powerful tail and great edgehold. The iM82 feels more damp. Both are great in terms of performance and equal in stability; the skis do feel a little different though.

Can't go wrong with any on the board. My personal favorites are the Elans, but I could live with any of them (happily). Recently, the 82ti and the iM82 have been our biggest sellers out of any ski we stock, FWIW.
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Thread Starter 
Wow! Thank you for all the great replies.
Sounds like I can't really go wrong.

I'm going to hunt around for the next 2 weeks and see if any gently used equipment shows up.
If not, I can't go wrong with the sweet deals Dawgcatching has going on (or some of the other offers I have received).

Not to go off track too far, but how would an older pair of Elan Magfire 12 178 compare to said skis above?

Thanks again!
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Where is the Blizzard Magnum 8.7 on your list?
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How much older on the Mag 12? They changed quite a bit a couple years ago.

I had the 2006 Mag 12 in a 176cm (bought from dawg in fact) and it was a great ski. Too heavy, but that was part of what made them so solid on the snow. I think the Head iM77 was a better option against that particular generation of the Mag 12 -- just as strong, but a little lighter feeling. In addition, Elan put the mount about 2-3cm too far forward on those skis IMO.
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Edited by makoona - 3/19/2009 at 02:43 pm
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How were the 888's in short turns? I think they have a larger radius then the im82s..

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How were the 888's in short turns? I think they have a larger radius then the im82s..

They come around pretty quickly if you want them to.  I can ski them in bumps, no problem. One of my favorite ~90mm skis, very high performance for how forgiving it is. 

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