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which skis for deep pow?

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
Hello everybody!
I need a ski which is very good in deep powder and deep powder in the trees. I mean really deep pow. Now I have a good deal on K2 skis and hence Pontoon or Hellbent. My question is which way should I go?
I thank you for your kind attention.
post #2 of 12
pontoon is pure powder ski, hellbent would be expected to do slightly better on piste

a number of reviews over at tgr: http://tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104129
post #3 of 12
Lots of good info here: http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=58503

Why is it that ever time somebody asks about skis for "really deep pow", somebody always chimes in with "on piste" performance? I've never once come across any "on piste" whist skiing really deep pow.
post #4 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thank you guys. What really is of interest for me is which of the two skis is BETTER in DEEP powder. I can't find the definite answer anywhere.
post #5 of 12
The answer is that "it depends".

If you are going to ski forward pretty much exclusively, don't care so much about variable conditions or groomers, want never to bury a tip, want maximum slarvy-ness, and generally want life uber-easy - then lean toward the Pontoon.

If you want to ski switch, do flippy spinny things, are willing to give up some slarvy-ness for carvy-ness, are willing to deal with a tip you can bury if you are on the heavier side (not that the ski is inclined that way, just that you can - whereas it is damn near impossible with the Pontoon) - then probably lean toward the Hell Bent.

Also, IMO the Pontoon is a bit more forgiving of backing off on speed. From my POV, it is pretty happy to go slow or fast. The Hell Bent seems to be better behaved with some speed.

In short, there is no definite answer. Pick your poison. There are now many reviews of both. Both ski great in Powder. And if you get the Hell Bent - don't let anyone convince you to mount it further back than +6. I'd suggest at least +7, even if you do not particularly intend to ski switch.

Anyway, there is no one answer to the question...
post #6 of 12
Thread Starter 
thanks spindrift! I'l go with the Pontoon (it's even cheaper for me than the Bents).
The next question is which length is better for me 5'11'' and 190 lbs. guy. It looks like 189 should be money but won't that be too much for the trees?
post #7 of 12
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Originally Posted by ripthepow View Post
thanks spindrift! I'l go with the Pontoon (it's even cheaper for me than the Bents).
The next question is which length is better for me 5'11'' and 190 lbs. guy. It looks like 189 should be money but won't that be too much for the trees?
Nope because that ski will ski powder like your on a groomer with front side carvers.
post #8 of 12
Again, pick your poison. I've skied both the 179 and 189. With me weighing between 195 and 220 depending on which season... No complaints with either length. The 179 is a tiny bit more nimble. The 189 more stable. BUT, in soft snow the ski is nimble as heck - in either length. I'd rather be on a 189 Pontoon in powder in trees than any cambered ski at any length.

In terms of absolute length difference, you are talking a couple inched on each end -- so unless you are in crazy tight trees, odds are good it is not a matter of "fitting" between one or the other.

My intuition is to say go with the 189 (especially if you'll be adding weight via a pack, etc). It is the one I'd go with if I had to live with one of those two sizes. It is almost as quick in tight places and gets you a bit more platform out in the open. But again, if you want maximum nimble, the 179 will offer plent of float.

So take your pick. You won't cry either way.
post #9 of 12
My understanding is that the Pontoons are better in deep funky snow of all kinds, but the Hellbents are a better pure deep "powder" ski, but that's just hearsay since I am going on conversations with users and not actually skiing either of them.
post #10 of 12
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Originally Posted by mudfoot View Post
My understanding is that the Pontoons are better in deep funky snow of all kinds, but the Hellbents are a better pure deep "powder" ski, but that's just hearsay since I am going on conversations with users and not actually skiing either of them.
You sure you typed that right?
post #11 of 12
No need to over think this one. If all you are going to be skiing is deep blower, and trees it probably won't matter much. Both skis should be awesome. I would err on the side of the longer ski. Rockered skis are stupid easy to use.
post #12 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thank you guys! 189 Pontoons are on the way. Promise to make a TR after I use'em.
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