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Your Best 5 Ski Instructors

post #1 of 44
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Who, Where, When, Why?

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post #2 of 44
Who: the Barking Bears Inc.
Where: you know!
When: over the last two years
Why: It's fantastic to get so many discussions about different techniques, with professional and leisure skiers who are passionate about the sport all chipping in. A lot of the theory I've read here has helped me much more than some of the actual on-snow lessons.

Who: Justin Dobbs, BASI 3
Where: Saas Fee, Switzerland
When: 1993
Why: He was my first ever instructor who taught me the very first "steps". He was extremely patient and also enthusiastic.

post #3 of 44
in person

WHOM: Jim Weiss

WHERE: Club Looney Tunes, but he's not on the instructional staff at any mountain.

WHEN: the past two ski seasons

WHY: incredible eye for mechanical errors/flaws, amazing ability to provide simple cure drills, fascinating personality, excellent sense of humor, and a warehouse of information on all things including skiing

virtual instructors

WHOM: the folks here at EpicSki

WHERE: from my computer

WHEN: every time I read the Instructional/Technique forum posts

WHY: different viewpoints ensures that something will resonate with me; great breadth of knowledge, experience, and communication skills.
post #4 of 44
I think his name was Scott Castro.
He would give bump clinics on Friday nights at the Mills. My lesson was on how to pack up a huge kicker and land doubles- like a double daffy and double twisties. Scott was pullin triples.
I also like Pierre eh! cause he'll spend and few minutes tuning me up every season. He is brutally honest, which is what I like. I think I get better results when he doesn't spare the feelings. I am not looking for somebody to smile and tell me I am doing well. I feel it in my skiing immedeately.
post #5 of 44
Stu Campbell
Stowe, VT, and various other PSIA-E clinic sites.
1972 & 1973, when I was preparing for cert.
Closest thing to a Rennaissance Man I've ever had the privilege to know.

Peter Palmer
At Cannon Mt.
March, 2001, as I failed in my attempt to get my level 3 back.
Great attitude, super skills, humility, and an obvious love of teaching.

Robert, a 58-year-old cancer survivor who came to our ski school desk last season to sign up for beginner snowboarding lessons, something he promised himself if he made it through chemotherapy. He put a lot of things into perspective for us.

"Woody" Woodward
Because of his three or four decades of proving that examiner-level skiing and humor do not have to be mutually exclusive.

My 17 year old son, a third generation instructor in our family, who since he was two has reminded me why skiing is such a great thing to do.
post #6 of 44
Who: Scott Schmidt, Glen Plake, Mike Hattrup, Tom Day and others.

Where: in my VCR

When: 1989 - present

I think watching that video 790,000 times did more for my skiing than anything else has. I used to just picture Day or Hattrup skiing whatever I needed to ski, and then did my best to do what he would do. I haven't been in as much steep terrain of late, but it still works.

Also: Jackson Hole has given me a schooling or two. Going there and skiing with people who ski better than me is quite "instructive".
post #7 of 44
Thread Starter 
All epicski participants, including non instructors, for teaching me that there are "many ways to skin a cat" although I wish we'd find a different analogy!

Natalie Terry, Sugarloaf. No nonsense approach, never allows me to ski below my ability . Past 2 seasons.

Linda at Sugarloaf, made me realize exactly WHY my boots were intefering with my progress! last year

Nadine at Whistler: Fun and intuitive. Picked up on my skiing "Claustrophobia" {sp?} on cattracks, and convinced me to try wide blue runs on Blackcomb, even though I'd only been skiing for 1 month. 2 years ago

Todd; Do you really have to ask why? Can figure out your "tragic flaw" in about 5 minutes of observation. Colabrative, as opposed to condescending way of working out a "game plan". Fun approach to skiing.
last year
post #8 of 44
What about the guy from Bormio?
post #9 of 44
Thread Starter 
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post #10 of 44
David Mannetter rules! The "Maneater" (as he was known during 12 years on the PSIA demo team)can watch one turn, and tell you one thing that improves your skiing forever in the next turn. I wish I was 1/10th as good as him.
post #11 of 44
Ali Ross
Won't be known to many Americans, but is well known in the UK.
He comes from the most humble origins - a family of crofters north of Inverness, and was once a motor mechanic. Trained me as an instructor in 1975 in Scotland.
Ali has the talent to express a few simple concepts in very clear terms and he totally transformed my skiing.
I've lived with the benefits ever since, skiing with a fifth of the energy I used to need, and three times more control...
...I reckon it's also saved me countless injuries!
Thanks a million, Ali
post #12 of 44
Carol Levine. Dave Mannetter. Jim Weiss. Horst Abraham. Tony Forrest.
post #13 of 44
My votes from our school. And I'm going to be in trouble for this because I'm really proud of our whole staff. But I'm going to do it anyway, because the following are representative of who we are and who we'd like to become.

Katie Fry, Ed Sciarrone, Bjorn Sutton, Martha Rose, Kenny Cummings, Aspen Highlands

Squatty Schuler, Charlie MacArthur, Karina Alder, Stephanie Brown, Rod Carnie, Sam Von Trapp, Andy Docken, Snowmass

Jim Schanzenbaker, Andrew Wilson, Scott Kane, Vance Lemley, Rick Vetromile, Greg Harms, Trish Schreiber, Joan Valentine, Aspen Mtn.

Megan Harvey, Paul McKinnie, Fergie Paton, Buttermilk

My all time hero(ine)? Maggie Loring, Vail

Did I mention, Katie Fry? It's okay to mention her again.

Why these people? Because they all have the whole package--the ability to live and share the integration of mind, body, and spirit with anyone at any time, coupled with the ability to ski elegantly and simply and really really well. Skill, caring, and childlike joy.

Again, these are only a few of my role models. Later this morning, I will smack myself on the forehead about names I have omitted.

But I will not omit our snowboard pros: Eric Smith, Butch Peterson, Lucas Franze, Jo Heywood, Pauly Anderson, Steve Ochko--again to name just a few.

The point of all this is that there are a lot of terrific pros out there, and thanks for the opportunity to honor them. The skiing/riding public is lucky to have so many resources who have built their lives around this stuff.
post #14 of 44
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by weems:

Katie Fry, Aspen Highlands

Megan Harvey,Buttermilk

Did I mention, Katie Fry? It's okay to mention her again.



I've had the pleasure of training with both these ladies in the Rocky Mountain Academy. They are truly outstanding!!!

post #15 of 44
Who: Woody Woodard
Where: PSIA-E Sno Pro Jam, Mt Snow
When: December 1998
Why: When I was assigned to Woody's group, I had never heard of him. He concentrated on independent foot steering, giving us drills where we initiated turns with the new outside foot, then with the new inside foot, and then with both feet at the same time. He also had a great progression that took us step by step from skating to crossing under.

Woody was the first full time employee that PSIA-E ever had, and is a legend in PSIA-E.

who: Ray Allard
where: PSIA-E Sno Pro Jam, Killington
when: December 2001
why: Ray worked with us on early turn initiation, getting on edge early, and being fully on edge and pressuring the outside ski before the fall line. Ray is a past presdent of PSIA-E, and the guy who wrote the book, and by the book, I mean the new Alpine Tech Manual. Ray was the second full time employee of PSIA-E, he is now the Ski School Director at Windham Mountain.

Ive only been to the Sno Pro Jam twice, I can't wait to see who I get next.
post #16 of 44

Ray Allard didn't write the Alpine book. Megan Harvey did.

Megan Harvey deserves that recognition in roses because, as you can imagine, writing a technical manual for instructors is perhaps the most grueling assignment in life (dealing with all the pre-publication editorial assistance from EXPERTS in our field...)
post #17 of 44
TT: Not to nitpick, but...

When EPSIA first became independent of the USEASA in the early 1970s, the first office was located in Lexington, MA. The first Executive Director was Al Pires and the office manager was Carol Humphries. Ray Allard was a volunteer member of the Board of Directors but I don't believe he was an employee.

You're right, though, Ray is an outstanding instructor.

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ March 16, 2002 08:24 AM: Message edited 1 time, by David7 ]</font>
post #18 of 44
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TT:
who: Ray Allard
Ray is a past presdent of PSIA-E, and the guy who wrote the book, and by the book, I mean the new Alpine Tech Manual. Ray was the second full time employee of PSIA-E, he is now the Ski School Director at Windham Mountain.

I had the pleasure of skiing with Ray at the 2000 Pro Jam at Mount Snow. He is a phenomenal instructor who subtly gets his point across with task based teaching. He would answer our questions with tacks in such a way as to give us the broadest most encompassing answer I have ever received to some questions. We would be doing drills for up to two hours he would look at us and say "did that answer your question?" Anytime you would see him thinking it would be more along the line of "hmmm,did I do enough to convey my point?" rather than "oh my god, how do I answer that?"

Anyway, I could go on like that about my experience with Ray for hours. However, I would give many more people in PSIA national (like the Harvey twins and Terry Barbour) credit for the new manual although Ray's research and influence is obvious.

post #19 of 44
Here's my 2 cents worth.

Tim Petrick. For putting up with with us at the National Academy that was held at Killington. Great eye, great delivery.

Victor Gerdin. Victor's Vectors, ski mechanics are his middle name.

Ray Allard. I took my first PSIA clinic with Ray 22 years ago, it still is memorable.

Jim Cardinelli(sp). As a Stowe clinition he would ski with me anty time I asked. Very patient with a rookie.

Dave "Franz" Tyrrell. I still try to get my yearly private from Franz. No nonsense approach with a great eye.
post #20 of 44
Thread Starter 
Thank you for these great replies! Its interesting to see who teaches the teachers! This Ray Allard guy sounds fascinating!
post #21 of 44
Interesting one, Lisamarie! You're right, there is a kind of private mystique surrounding the teachers of the teachers. Just as there are a lot of "regular" ski instructors, they are a lot of "regular" teacher trainers.

But among the cult of ski instructors, no matter their home "chapter", there are certain of these teacher trainer types who are accorded God-like status. Their word is scripture to the ski teacher, worshipped without question... scary. Better put your tongue in cheek! The fact remains... at that level, there is no allowance for smoke and mirrors. These guys are good!

Some among us will certainly dispute this notion of a society of god-like beings presiding over the ranks of us everyday ski teachers, but to that rebuttal, I answer thus: It matters not if you are PSIA, CSIA, PMTS or whatever. Skiing technique at the highest, most refined levels differs very little from one group to the next. And these "gods" I am speaking of have personally explored these realms of skiing technique. In this space, one rises well above any discussion of "whose way is better". They simply ARE better. They can show you humility without offending you. They are more than teachers, they are mentors.

I place our esteemed colleague Bob Barnes in this group, although I have never met the guy. In reading his words here, it is clear that he speaks only as one who has experienced that moment can speak. I also enjoy his thoughts on the business side of the game, as I am involved in this world and like anyone, I need all the help I can get.

No particular order here, but there's one down... who's next?

Dave Piket, one-time boss at my present home slip and slide. Now works at Beaver Creek doing something or other with their ski school. CSIA Level IV guy and a real sexy skier, but I will leave the discussion of his girlish figure for others to ponder. Interesting sense of humor. Out skiing, he always had a knack for letting me disagree with his BS until I figured things out for myself. He didn't so much teach me, just kept telling me I could do it.

Norm Kreutz, CSIA Western Program Director. Lots of the pictures in our bible/manual are of this skier, so he's pretty damn good. His job with our association has him zinging back and forth across the country and into foreign lands. Here in Canada, he's one of the guys that decides just how we go about doing our jobs. I've skied with him only once or twice, but it's cool that he still remembers my name out of hundreds he meets.

Another former boss, Don Kjorven. Very soft-spoken, but confident... a gentle man. Walks softly, but carries a big stick. Doesn't say much... doesn't need to. Just watch and learn.

Number 5? Well, I gotta throw myself in there. I am a student of skiing, and ultimately, no one can make me change except me. I must tend the inner fire and always seek new fuel to burn.... and so the journey continues.
post #22 of 44
Thread Starter 
"ultimately, no one can make me change accept me" Secret, you always give me much to ponder, but you are correct. How good we becomes depends on how well we process the information that is given us, and how self aware we let ourselves become.

I've also noticed that the teachers I enjoy the most have the same teachings values that I have in my own teaching . Constant education, learning, upgrading skills.
post #23 of 44
During my short stint as a ski instructor, more years ago than I'd care to admit, my best teachers were my most perceptive students!
post #24 of 44
Lyle Stewart - The Canyons
Just had a way with words and images. Worked well with everyone in the group.

Kent Carpenter - Telluride. great eye and Technical skier/instructor. (Haydn was really good too)

Aaron ? - Kirkwood. I have a feeling I just re-met him as our clinician for level 1 prep. I don't remember the last name and it was so long ago I'm not absolutely sure it's the same person but I think so. He started me on the road of passion for learning. My first class/clinic in about 20 years many years ago. Nothing specific except a passion for skiing that was infectious. I wanted more after that lesson.

Scott Mathers - Alta UT. Another passionate skier and technician. Made me realize how much I still had to learn, and made me comfortable in the steeps and deeps of Alta. Also began planting the seeds of my deciding to try out being an instructor. (the economy and a lay off pushed me the rest of the way)

Eric D. - Sugarbowl, CA. Although I have not taken a formal lesson with him, I see a passion and love of skiing in him that really drives one to new heights.. His eye for movement, good delivery of instruction and simple explainations left a lasting impression.
post #25 of 44
I know it asks for 5, but I can’t seem to narrow it down to just 5. These people were/ are the biggest influence on my skiing. I hate to list them individually, because I learned tons from my fellow pros and students and my family. Now my 11 yr old daughter is giving pointers to friends.

My brothers and sister; boy do they rip. I’m the oldest and the slowest.

Mike Bannon - Loon Mt late 70’s to early 80’s; Mike taught me what it was to be a ski instructor and gave me a shot at it.

Sigi Grottendorfer – Sugarbush ealy 80’s; Tuesday morning clinics, “get in ‘dere”

Hartmut Helmstraite <sp> – Sugarbush ealy 80’s; “OD, vat vas dat?”

Bill Allen – Sugarbush early 80’s. The consummate pro. Big and smooth.

Mike “Gootz” Goetzinger – Sugarbush early 80’s; This guy knew his stuff before he was an examiner.

Jimmy Ackerson – Sugarbush early 80’s; He could lay down the smoothest arcs way before there were “carving” skis.

Rick Learman <sp> – Homewood, CA mid 80’s; He taught me with out teaching. How’d he do that?

Maggie (pre) Loring – Loon Mt Late 80’s; Even in children’s clinics I learned something

Chip Loring – Loon Mt Late 80’s; Drop the “analysis paralysis”

Tom Chasse – Loon Mt early 90’s; How does he do that?

Paul Brown at PSIA-E Spring Rally mid 90’s; Are you riding ‘em or guiding ‘em?

Terry Barbour at PSIA-E Spring Rally mid 90’s; Follow me here, now over here, now here…
post #26 of 44

Dave tyrell was my mentor....yes he is known as"Franz" . I was his right hand man only because I skied better and had alot of natural talent. But above all I had passion...I took Franz down the Grand at Big Sky with no escorts....we were in as in were in. That is the the most memorable skiing moment that I go back to... Markus Alt


Also, if I might add I had numerous partners in the Colorado figure eights...never won because we were old school on GS skiis. Matt Bellville and I finished 2nd after Hans and(Frans Fucksenburger) did it  on their fattys....and it was my first day on skiis for eight months for a acl reco. Im just saying....



Markus Alt once said(me) In the summit daily news that{1991} "I like to know that if I make a mistake, It could result in serious injury or even death, thats the razors edge,one side life one side death...that the satisfaction...thats the rush...Markus Alt  Summit Daily News

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I think we just set an all-time record for thread bumps!  10 years, 6 months and 12 days.  eek.gif

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Originally Posted by KevinF View Post

I think we just set an all-time record for thread bumps!  10 years, 6 months and 12 days.  eek.gif

Makes for a fun read for those of us who only found EpicSki within the last few years.

post #29 of 44

6 of these people are still active here and I still interact with at least one other on FB almost every day. 

post #30 of 44
Franz remains active in the Breck Ski & Ride program. I've loved the few chances I've had to ski with him. He conducted the last staff clinic I participated in last December before I got run down and ended up with a plate in my knee. There are lots of good trainers (and PSIA examiners) here.
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