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post #31 of 39
Great postings by Rick and BB. I think that comparing the two videos of OP carving the groomers outside the gates in the last years video and now bashing the gates in this years video shows clearly how much more difficult it is to ski gates than ski outside the gates. In the last years vido the outside arm forward driving and hip rotation is very clearly visiable. Other than that, the skiing in that video is great.

BTW 4ster, you are complaining about your stance opening up at transition. Rick made good comments on this alredy but I would suggest one more thing. I think it comes from the old step turn. As Rick pointed out you are stepping onto your inside ski BTE but he did not explain where it comes from. Anyway, it will take some work to get rid of this as your default move. A more active inside leg and how you relese the turn are key movements.
post #32 of 39
Thread Starter 
Thanks everyone. Been out skiing powder all day, & got a few more feel good stoke clips I want to post. It will take me some time to digest & sift through all that's been said today.

tdk6, thanks for the pic links of BB's. I am going to look at them closer soon.

Rick, I am very familiar with all the drills you prescribe. I was actually out with baton in hand last week. I commented on my experience in Tromano's MA thread. I hope to get in some stubbies soon, as the conditions allow.

SR55, of course I want to be faster in the course, but I am not fully commited to racing. I have alot of fun in SL especially, & enjoy some friendly competition. My times were good enough this weekend to win my class, but just out of the superseed which is led by a former Masters World Champion. I have a long way to go to compete with some of those guys. At this point I will only race at my home resort. It has always been my belief that the basics of good ski technique comes from the race course & it will bring out the best & worst in us.

Thanks,
JF
post #33 of 39

Coolness...

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Originally Posted by 4ster View Post
Thanks everyone. Been out skiing powder all day, & got a few more feel good stoke clips I want to post. It will take me some time to digest & sift through all that's been said today.

tdk6, thanks for the pic links of BB's. I am going to look at them closer soon.

Rick, I am very familiar with all the drills you prescribe. I was actually out with baton in hand last week. I commented on my experience in Tromano's MA thread. I hope to get in some stubbies soon, as the conditions allow.

SR55, of course I want to be faster in the course, but I am not fully commited to racing. I have alot of fun in SL especially, & enjoy some friendly competition. My times were good enough this weekend to win my class, but just out of the superseed which is led by a former Masters World Champion. I have a long way to go to compete with some of those guys. At this point I will only race at my home resort. It has always been my belief that the basics of good ski technique comes from the race course & it will bring out the best & worst in us.

Thanks,
JF

...ya done good, and I think you've got about the right amount of go fast/have fun in the mix. Good luck and...go fast and have fun, preferably at the same time ("Know your limits...and exceed them frequently.")
post #34 of 39
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Originally Posted by tdk6 View Post
The outside arm is reaching for the gate but the inside shin guard is miles away:
http://www.mynetimages.com/aa0ff2b0_md.jpg
Not to say that most of this advice is not well taken or appreciated, but the stills that were extracted were on the last gate going straight into the finish. I was trying to decide whether I should skate, tuck or wheelie thru the beam. (I opted to just stick my pole out).

One gate earlier:
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Reaching across? Maybe

Shin on the gate? No, but a mile away?

Skiing into angulation? Probably, but it's getting pretty flat here & higher edge angles may create un-needed friction.

Inside the gate? Yes.

I am trying not to be defensive, & the critiques, along with my own self analysis are very helpful, so please don't take this the wrong way. I apologize for the poor video quality, but it is just a pocket camera. I look forward to implementing many of the suggestions presented here, & hope to make some positive changes as time allows.
Thanks,

JF

In the mean time here is another video from yeaterday just for fun:
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post #35 of 39
Thread Starter 
Try again:

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post #36 of 39

My point exactly....

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Originally Posted by 4ster View Post
Not to say that most of this advice is not well taken or appreciated, but the stills that were extracted were on the last gate going straight into the finish. I was trying to decide whether I should skate, tuck or wheelie thru the beam. (I opted to just stick my pole out).

One gate earlier:
730 ? 500 : true);" />

Reaching across? Maybe

Shin on the gate? No, but a mile away?

Skiing into angulation? Probably, but it's getting pretty flat here & higher edge angles may create un-needed friction.

Inside the gate? Yes.

I am trying not to be defensive, & the critiques, along with my own self analysis are very helpful, so please don't take this the wrong way. I apologize for the poor video quality, but it is just a pocket camera. I look forward to implementing many of the suggestions presented here, & hope to make some positive changes as time allows.
Thanks,

JF

In the mean time here is another video from yeaterday just for fun:
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....see what I said above. We're striving for excellence, not perfection. Or, as somebody else put it, "We're not making pianos here..."
post #37 of 39
One thing to try with all of these drills is to run them in stubby gates or brushes so you won't be preoccupied with gate blocking. That way, there are fewer things distracting you from your goals.

And once you get back into the full size gates, don't worry about blocking the gates. If you simply let things fall where they may, you'll get a good indication of where your line and technique are. When everything is working well, the gate should make contact with your hand without any reach. Sure, it's an overly idealistic approach, but it's also one that will help keep your shoulders facing the fall line, more or less, because even a basic reach with the outside hand will close off the shoulder and torso axis, thus moving your CM out of the most efficient line down the course.

Sure, it's fun as all getup to get into a slalom course and punch the bejeezus out of the gates. But if you want to be fast, the blocking motion isn't going to win the races for you: good skiing is.

The other posts about canting, stance, and so forth are spot-on.

Just my $0.02 - YMMV.
post #38 of 39
4ster - you should not take my feedback too seriously. You shin was a mile away in that photo but you are right, that gate doesent count. I like when you come up with good excuses. I do too (my whife tells me). Fact remains, your free skiing is great and powerful and you leave the competition behind but you have to improve some issues in order to become faster and smoother in gates. Dont we all?
post #39 of 39
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Originally Posted by tdk6 View Post
you have to improve some issues in order to become faster and smoother in gates. Dont we all?
tdk6, I absoulutely agree. I wasn't really making excuses, just saw it a little differently than you. I wouldn't post if I didn't expect some critisism along with the great analysis. Thanks.

Songfta, thanks for the $.02. I have gotten a couple of good realizations from the feedback here.
1. How the slightest twisting of the shoulders effects the hips, &
2. How the squareing of the hips effects leg stacking strength, which in turn causes me to drive the knee & crush the boot.
JF
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