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Two footed skiing?

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 
This past weekend I was running a GS coarse along with my son who's a race coach at our local mountain. He'd critique each of my runs. You know, normal things like keep your shoulders square, set up early, drive through the turn, ect. His final assessment was that I was a pretty darn good skier for a 52 year old and that maybe I could join his weekly bear race team. At the end of the day I was completely exhausted, trashed but happy.

But, his final comments were," you know dad, If you could learn to ski more two footed you'd have a much easier time of it and be able to carve boiler plate more easily". He suggested that I try it on some easy runs the next day and figure it out. Well this left me stumped. Eventually after some experimentation I realized it was all in the hips. More hip angulation puts more pressure over my inside ski which than seems to track better and picks up some of the load that previously had been only on my downhill ski.

What do you think? Is there some other way to accomplish this or am I way off in left field?
If I can get a start on it this season it'll give me some skills to work on when next season starts.
Who knows maybe it'll push me up to a different level.
post #2 of 9

Sounds like you got a good start.

Search on "two footed" or "equal pressure"
There are a few previous threads.

As far as exercises,

railroad tracks,

one footed skiing (inside and outside edges)

marching turns or 1000 steps (again a search is in order)

Get Bob Barnes's book for good descriptions of the exercises.

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post #3 of 9
Good point. I like the feel of all that g force too.
Lyle told me not to worry about how much pressure was going where but rather work on getting both skis at the same edge angle at the same time and moving down the hill. This amazing human body will make all the adjustments to keep us from flipping over the handlebars or over the outside of the turn. The physics of speed, turn radius, pitch of the hill and our "correct body movements" will force more pressure to the outside ski or where ever it needs to be. or something like that.

I found this works pretty good
post #4 of 9
Have to agree with Gravity. The inside ski should come close to matching angles but pressure should build against the outside ski. The more you move away from your ski the more it will bend and try to come back. Be carefull of to much angulation if you are racing or high speed carving Inclination is stronger also allow yourself to line up with your skis a little more. Often people are over countered which hinders the ability to hold the edge. YES ski with 2 but weight 1! (at least in a race course) Good luck. Todo
post #5 of 9
The bulldozer turn and the pivot slip are two turns used [probably always off the race course - even the coarse race course] with two footed skiing. The object with those two turns is to control speed. Please see the post in this department on "Short, quick turns in tight places", or something to that affect, and the posts from the past on the bulldozer turn. Racing and all mountain skiing may overlap but seem to seek different results and lean on different kinds of techniques.
post #6 of 9
Thread Starter 
Thanks guys for your responses. Like gravity, I too love to carve mega turns and really load up my downhill ski. When looking at my tracks in the snow the uphill ski only makes a light imprint in the snow. The only time their equal is when I'm rolling my ankes from edge to edge.

My goal is to load up my uphill ski just a little more but not enough to effectively change the actions of my downhill ski. More active edge= more grip.
post #7 of 9
One thing that I learned that helped me to use two edges more effectively, is to spend some time making turns where you are predominantly concerned about establishing the new uphill edge. This helps redirect your thinking[ freeing your mind ] from over emphasis on the downhill inside edge.

And what really made it work for me was the "phantom" foot move.
post #8 of 9
i totally agree with what gravity said.

it's best not to have one rigid way of skiing, but to improvise according to the conditions and your intuition. i find myself using a variety of weightings, without really thinking about it.

the general pattern, i suppose, is that i weight the outside ski more than the inside when i'm skiing ON snow, and ski more two-footed when i'm IN snow. in steep & deep conditions, i sometimes find myself weighting the inside leg heavily, from a very low position...

these choices are not conscious, more a matter of feel, but to get used to turning with different leg weightings, you have to do conscious practice. on those easy groomed runs to get to/from more exciting stuff, you can consciously teach yourself to turn
- totally on the outside ski (try lifting the inside ski to prove it)
- mostly on the outside ski
- 50/50
- mostly inside ski
- only inside ski (lifting the outside ski)

it's tricky at first but your legs quickly learn & remember how to do it. if you can do this, you'll have independent & adaptable legs.

besides allowing you to improvise without thinking, this also helps recoveries. if you can shift your weight from leg to leg mid-turn, you can ski through mistakes that would normally have you doing faceplants.

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post #9 of 9
and to add to all this, it's a lot of fun to play around with that sort of stuff. Especially if you are on a small hill. Try doing outside-outsides in the bumps. It'll make the bumps a bit (intense understatement) more difficult. But do 4 or 5 bump runs that way, trying to make round turns, and you'd be amazed at what it will do for your normal skiing. Playing around like this goes back to the idea of practicing the fundamentals, that we were talking about, a while back.
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