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post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
I've pretty much decided on Smith Phenom goggles.

Now, I need to pick which lens to get.

Per the Smith site, I think I've narrowed it down to a choice between two general purpose lenses:

Ignitor Mirror:
Proprietary new universal lens tint designed to reduce eye fatigue while enhancing contrast and depth perception in all conditions. A versatile lens tint designed to be used all season long. 35% VLT.


RC36:
The universal lens tint. Combines rose and copper base tints. Provides the absolute best vision in most conditions. Increases depth perception and cuts glare in all conditions. 36% VLT.
Any thoughts on either of these lenses - - or even considering something else?

thanks
post #2 of 16
I have the ignitor lens and really like it. I wear them anytime it's not snowing really hard. Then I wear my Oakley Hi Blue lens.
post #3 of 16
My smith googles came with the rc36 lens and I have changed it out for the sensor mirror lens. This lens is great for depth perception and is good for all, but the sunniest days here in new england. Even on sunny days, I have only experienced bright sun issues while on the lifts and not while skiing. If I had only one lens, it wouldn't be the rc36. I don't have any experience with the ignitor.
post #4 of 16
I have been happy with the Ignitor lens in all but the flatest of lights.
post #5 of 16
I'm no help, I have ALL the lenses. I mainly use the Ignitor.
post #6 of 16
Philpug, What do you like for flat light? I was in some good snow today, but could not see the terrain worth a dang.
post #7 of 16
I use the rc36 for all but the worst of days, then the sensor mirror gets broken out.
post #8 of 16
Flat light goggle choices were discussed fairly recently. In the Smith series, I believe most voted for the sensor/mirror lens as best for flat light conditions (there were a few dissenters). Others favored the Oakley Yellow/Hi-Yellow lens. Personally, I'm happy with the Scott Night Amplifier lens as a lower cost option. I use it most of the time in upstate NY (far more often than I use a lens that is primarily designed to block glare). I have not tried the recommended Smith or Oakley lenses so I can't provide a comparison.

STE
post #9 of 16
I bought goggles with RC36 (which is good for general purpose) but swap to a sensor lens for flat light days or a yellow lens for flat light / night skiing. No one lens is really perfect for everything in my opinion.

BTW, Tramdock.com has Phenoms for $37 right now with RC36.
post #10 of 16
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Originally Posted by HERB View Post
Philpug, What do you like for flat light? I was in some good snow today, but could not see the terrain worth a dang.
Sensor Mirror. I used yellow for many of years, but the Sensor Mirror was even clearer and with more depth.
post #11 of 16
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by skier219 View Post
I bought goggles with RC36 (which is good for general purpose) but swap to a sensor lens for flat light days or a yellow lens for flat light / night skiing. No one lens is really perfect for everything in my opinion.

BTW, Tramdock.com has Phenoms for $37 right now with RC36.
Wow! Thanks so much. Just bought 'em at Tramdock!!!
post #12 of 16
I love my Phenoms, even though I've had to add a few millimeters of foam to make up for this "Asian" thing I've got going on (can't believe Oakley is the only mainstream mfgr. making an "Asian fit"...the bridge of our nose doesn't work with gogs off the shelf), and I've gone to owning three pairs for different light.
Today, I wore my black with the blue mirror since it was bluebird, but yesterday I wore my white/green/tan with the ignitor since the sun was in and out all day. I also have a pair of white with the pure yellow lens for the stormiest and flatest light days (at last check, Smith was waiting on raw material before they had the yellows in stock).
All of this is about to go out the window since my bride got me a pair of i/o's for xmas and they came with the sensor mirror and ignitor lenses, and I have a yellow lens coming this week.
I realize that I didn't answer your question directly, but I hope that I was able to shed some "light"!
post #13 of 16
I find that the Polar Rose Copper is better than the Ignitor. Still undecided on the Sensor. I have it for very overcast/ snowy days but I do not think it helps at all in very flat light. My Spy Persimmon lens was much better and I almost think that the Polar Rose Copper does a better job in low/ flat light too!
post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by RonSki View Post
Wow! Thanks so much. Just bought 'em at Tramdock!!!
Awesome!
post #15 of 16
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Originally Posted by TahoeBru View Post
I love my Phenoms, even though I've had to add a few millimeters of foam to make up for this "Asian" thing I've got going on (can't believe Oakley is the only mainstream mfgr. making an "Asian fit"...the bridge of our nose doesn't work with gogs off the shelf), and I've gone to owning three pairs for different light.
Today, I wore my black with the blue mirror since it was bluebird, but yesterday I wore my white/green/tan with the ignitor since the sun was in and out all day. I also have a pair of white with the pure yellow lens for the stormiest and flatest light days (at last check, Smith was waiting on raw material before they had the yellows in stock).
All of this is about to go out the window since my bride got me a pair of i/o's for xmas and they came with the sensor mirror and ignitor lenses, and I have a yellow lens coming this week.
I realize that I didn't answer your question directly, but I hope that I was able to shed some "light"!
yeah I too find the Phenoms to fit an "Asian" face better than most. Did you tr on the IO's though? I found that model to have the same nose gap, too-curved problem I encounter with 90% of goggles.

I was considering checking out some Zeals, but they sound like they would fit similarly to regular Oakleys from what I am gathering....haven't tried any Scotts...
post #16 of 16
My post count is still too low to PM anyone other than the moderators, but I got this PM from "hmai18" and here's my response:

"I saw your post in the Smith goggle thread about having to modify your goggles to accommodate your low nose bridge. I just bought a pair of I/Os and while the gap isn't huge, it's larger than what I had on my Oakleys A frames.

How did you add foam to your goggles? Do you have a photo you'd be willing to share?"

I had an old pair of kinda "foofy" Carrera goggles laying around, and while they were just too "designer" for me, they had some pretty sweet foam on them.
I used a long razor knife (the kind that has the detents to snap off for a fresh blade) and trimmed off all of the foam from the Carrera frames. I then selected pieces of uniform thickness and cut them to fit in the small void in the bridge of the Smiths (I used Barge Cement).
I used the nose section from the Carreras on my Prodigys and the other pieces on my Phenoms.
After some trial fits, I used a pair of really sharp scissors to trim back the foam to the point where it filled the void but still allowed proper breathing.
I did this operation to my new i/o's last night and used them today during a snowy, windy day at Alpine Meadows and they (like all the rest) performed extremely well!

I don't have any pics on hand right now, but can snap some if my description isn't clear enough.

My post count should be up to the minimum later tonight, so I should be able to send and respond to PM's at that time.

Good Luck!!!
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