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Binding release problem

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
So I just reviewed the Blizzard Titan Argo here:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=78235

Copy from review:

BUT. A major issue I have. I suffered 3 pre releases at my normal din which is 8. All from the heel. Now I have skied Marker bindings for many years with few issues, this binding has a marker heel and a toe that is a Rossi if I am not mistaken, pretty odd! At lunch I cranked the din to 9 on the heel and 8.5 on the heel. I suffered two more releases. Now don’t get me wrong, I am happy when skis come off for my own good. But going through a bump field and getting inn a trough and having the ski just pop off is not on.

I used to work as a ski tech and know how to set up a marker heel in terms of forwards pressure etc. So I am not sure what the issue is. I am also aware that riding a binding at the edge of it’s din is also not ideal, but really. Perhaps the 3-10 binding is more aimed at lower end recreational style skiing, I mean I know it is, and hence does not have the shock absorbing capabilities etc that may be present on higher end bindings, I don’t know. Anyway I am at a bit of a loss as one of my prereleases had me sliding down a steep slope at some speed and could have been dangerous. I guess I will have to find some different iq bindings and see how it goes.

OK:

I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on how to fix this binding problem without changing the binding?

Could I try adding/ reducing forwards pressure?

Would increasing the forwards pressure mean the adjustment screw was slightly protruding or slightly recessed?

Any help greatly appreciated.
post #2 of 16
This heel, although it looks like a Rossi/Look is indeed Marker heel. Check to the forward pressure. I have 10 days or so in this heel, in either my Magnum 8.7's or Jesters on my 102's with no pre releases at all. These do require more forward pressure than you would think, the screw needs to be flush when the boot is in the bindings. The pressure should be changes when the boot is NOT in the binding though.
post #3 of 16
Clarification. I just read your review. The binding that is on your ski is the older IQ, not the new Marker w/ the Grif-ster heel. I have a pair of the 412's here, I think it might be a bit beefier than the 310. Maybe Whiteroom will check in to the thread regarding the 310, I am not sure which heel it has.
post #4 of 16
Thread Starter 
I am pretty sure the heel is a Marker as I said, with the Rossi toe.

And yes the screw is flush with the boot in and I always adjust them with the boot out.

I have set up many marker bindings, and everything seems fine. But the prerelease is bad!
post #5 of 16
Thread Starter 
It is this binding I am pretty sure:

http://blizzard-web.bdf-net.com/goto.../iq-3_10-black
post #6 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Powder Puppy View Post

I used to work as a ski tech and know how to set up a marker heel in terms of forwards pressure etc.


Could I try adding/ reducing forwards pressure?

Would increasing the forwards pressure mean the adjustment screw was slightly protruding or slightly recessed?
post #7 of 16
Thread Starter 
Wow thanks! I only every adjusted it to be the actual recomended pressure and I am not sure what either side corresponds too.

Thanks for you friendly and insightful input.
post #8 of 16
The screw should be flush with the boot in, more pressure = recessed and less = protruding. Never so much as touched a pair of markers though. You had the bindings tested?
post #9 of 16
Thread Starter 
Thank you for the info. I have not had the binding checked, they are brand new, but I am thinking perhaps I should.
post #10 of 16
Thread Starter 
Well I am going to go with a couple of extra clicks of forwards pressure. Will report on how it goes!
post #11 of 16
I wouldn't increase the forward pressure, it will not fix your problem. It WILL most likely increase your pre-release issues, if not worse. I would first check your boot heel for any wear. It is possible that the boot is not fully engaging the heel piece of the binding (I see this a lot with old boots and rental boots) If this is not the cast then have the binding torque tested at a shop, it could be a manufacture's defect, and you need to get it replaced.

James
post #12 of 16
The binding you have is the two piece plastic heel. This binding can work for an intermediate skier on easy terrain. Generally, it has minimal shock absorption in the heelpiece due to the cam profiling. It is out of place on a high performance ski or for a strong skier.

SJ
post #13 of 16
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Originally Posted by jlong1974 View Post
I wouldn't increase the forward pressure, it will not fix your problem. It WILL most likely increase your pre-release issues, if not worse. I would first check your boot heel for any wear. It is possible that the boot is not fully engaging the heel piece of the binding (I see this a lot with old boots and rental boots) If this is not the cast then have the binding torque tested at a shop, it could be a manufacture's defect, and you need to get it replaced.

James
Unless there was not enough forward pressure to begin with.
post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by karpiel View Post
Unless there was not enough forward pressure to begin with.

Agreed. I'm assuming the FP screw is flush with the housing and everything is set correctly to start with. He shouldn't experience pre-release.
post #15 of 16
Thread Starter 
Yes the forwards pressure screw is perectly flush when the boot is in. I am thinking I might have to change the binding.
post #16 of 16
Thread Starter 
And my boot does not have any significant heel wear.
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