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Intuitions incorrectly molded in Kryptons?

post #1 of 9
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I replaced the stock liners in my Krypton Pros by buying Dalbello Intuition Gold liners that are the same size as my shells. The shop heated them very hot in an oven, told me to buckle my boots tight, and had me stand on an incline with the boots flexed while cooling. The result was that the liners oozed up in the space under the tongue, forming a mohawk ridge on the top of the liners. It does not seem to adversely effect the fit, but I think it is the cause of a huge increase in the stiffness of the flex. I have similar wrap heat molded liners in my Garmont 3-piece shell tele boots and they did not end up with a ridge.

Did the shop screw up in molding my liners? Should it be done without the incline, or maybe not getting them so hot? Is it possible to remold them to correct the situation, or are the liners now stuck that way? They fit and ski well but have lost a large part of the original sweet flex they had with stock liners.

Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks.
post #2 of 9
First, these should not be heated in an oven, they are designed to be heated from the inside out with an Intuition heater. The "mohawk effect " does happen sometimes with the open throat design. Molding the boot, while on an incline is the preferred process.
post #3 of 9
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
First, these should not be heated in an oven, they are designed to be heated from the inside out with an Intuition heater. The "mohawk effect " does happen sometimes with the open throat design. Molding the boot, while on an incline is the preferred process.
I don't know for sure if they used an oven, but the liners were uncomfortably hot when I first put them on. I suspect that the mohawk effect is causing the increased flex stiffness. I guess my real question is if it makes sense to try and remold them in such a way as to eliminate the mohawk?
post #4 of 9
so the problem is that the boot is stiffer now?

use the soft flex tongue, and remove any rear spoilers in the boot.

Mohawk is not a problem, happens sometimes, should be fine
post #5 of 9
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I changed to the softer tongue, but they are still significantly stiffer than with the stock liners and the black tongues. They used to have a noticeable progressive flex, and now they seem just like evey other boot. I figure if I could get rid of the mohawk they should flex more evenly instead of having that "hit the front of the boot" feeling that Flexons and Kryps are famous for eliminating.

Can I remold them and eliminate the mohawk? If so, how?
post #6 of 9
spot heat that area and flatten it. should be fine, but I dont think that the flex is being stopped by that ridge,

have you skied the boots with int liners yet? or just in shop?
post #7 of 9
Our rep told us the stack intuition heaters don't cook the liner enough. I have been using an oven for years. It works great. I did a pair this morning & will be doing another this afternoon- with an oven.

The liners are warm when they come out, and both the client and I wear gloves when doing the wrap. It should be pretty warm. I put a hose over the footbed, toe cap & foot so that it also holds together- and protects the skin a little.

On ridges and wrinkles, cross wraps and other errors...

They happen (just not to me ). I've seen some horrible molds, but the liner so so customizable that they don't matter that much.
post #8 of 9
Thread Starter 
So if I want to try and "de-mohawk" my liners by spot heating with a hair dryer, do I heat the inside, outside, or both?

I have at least 12 days skiing on the ID Gold liners. If the ridge is not stiffening them up then it must be the higher density foam and the wrap design that is doing it. Whatever the case, had I known the result going in I would have used a different aftermarket liner.
post #9 of 9
both inside and out, as needed. Start lightly with the heat. Better to heat 3 times then melt em.

sometimes it is the extra material/folds in the front that stiffen the boot. (not the ridge) but try to flatten it and see.
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