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suggestions for 100+ skis

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
some background-
male, 5'9", 190 lbs, strong aggressive skier. Level? not sure- probably 9. I'm comfortable almost anywhere, including extreme steeps and cliffs/cornices, any condition is OK and I usually hike to remote drops wherever I end up skiing. I've been skiing for 30+ years, with very solid technique. Raced in highschool and college, did mogul comps during graduate school, and have skied/raced both east and west coast with lots of varied terrain. I took 8 years off due to injuries, and have now been back on for a year. Obviously, things have changed for gear... but the desire to rip has not. I'm now located in socal, and skiing mostly in tahoe, Utah/CO, with occasional trips to mammoth when conditions are good.

I'm currently skiing Dynastar Mythic Riders (172) with Tecnica Diablos, that I bought last year per recommendation from my local gurus. The MRs are a great all around mid and will be my main ski- good mostly in chop and tracked out powder, good in moguls, and fine for the inevitable groomers, etc. I'm looking for a 2nd ski for cliff drops, backcountry, deeps, and high speed runouts, where the MRs maybe will do it but aren't so strong.

So far, research would suggest the line prophet 100, bro, maybe the volkl gotama, armada ants. but any others?

would love input from the forum-
cheers!
post #2 of 21
Sounds like a carbon 196 lhasa pow would be perfect.
post #3 of 21
Do you want a rock solid burly big mountain ski or something a little more (but not entirely) pow oriented? If the former, take a look at Blizzard Titan Argos. It's very versatile especially at speed...doesn't really come to life at slow leisurely speeds but bashes crud, floats well enough, and actually skis groomers really well...sort of feels a lot narrower than its 101 waist on hard snow and wider than 101 in 3D snow....and a really solid platform on steeps. I have a race background too and also took the same 8 years off that you did...I've been happy with the Argos as a go anywhere ski that you can really drive. You mentioned the Prophet 100, which has similar dimensions, but it might be a little soft for you.

But you may want something with some (tip) rocker if you want the extra float in deep snow and looser more pivot-ability....and you may want less sidecut. There are tons of good choices in the 110-115 waist range that have some rocker but also some sidecut and a real tail. I haven't skied any of these (but am looking forward to a lot of demo-ing in this category), but some names that come to mind: Volkl Katana, Armada JJ, PM Gear Lhasa Pow as someone else mentioned. There are lots of others.

There are a lot of people on here with way more experience on these skis than I have from my limited demo-ing...I'm sure many will ring in with helpful guidance.
post #4 of 21
Also, btw, you don't find the MR in 172 skis too short for you? I'm 25 lbs lighter than you and spent a couple days on the 178 last year and found that length felt just right for me.
post #5 of 21
The Mythic is a superb ski for average Tahoe conditions (it was my daily driver last year in 178). It is a pretty burly ski so I'm not completely surprised that the 172 works for you although I would have suggested the 178 myself. I am experimenting with the Titan Argos as a daily driver this year and so far I can tell you that it's more versatile that the Gotama which has been my wide ski for the last two years.

So what to get?.......I think that you have two categories to choose from.

Conventional skis with traditional sidecuts and camber which make excellent powder/crud skis but also ski credibly well outside the deep stuff.

Reverse cambered (rockered) skis that are the pinnacle in deep powder but generally less useful in other conditions. There are many variations of these skis from mild (Salomon Czar) to wild (Armada ARG) and naturally, the characteristics vary considerably.

Personally, I have chosen a 115mm conventional ski as my wide ride for this year but also have a 115mm reverse/reverse ski to experiment with as well.

This discussion could go all over the map and get pretty confusing without a little guidance from you about which category sounds most appealing to you.

SJ
post #6 of 21
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Personally, I have chosen a 115mm conventional ski as my wide ride for this year but also have a 115mm reverse/reverse ski to experiment with as well.

That's wild - a year or so ago that was heli-ski/bottomless only territory. Interesting how things change.

I second SJ's recommendation of conventional (maybe no-camber) in the 110-115mm range. Maybe an EHP?
post #7 of 21
After all the threads looking for the single BEST whatever this is a welcome change to look for more than 100 ski suggestions. Gonna take a while to demo all those.
post #8 of 21
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Originally Posted by Jer View Post
That's wild - a year or so ago that was heli-ski/bottomless only territory. Interesting how things change.

I second SJ's recommendation of conventional (maybe no-camber) in the 110-115mm range. Maybe an EHP?
Good point. I should have mentioned that. Mine is is a Huge Trouble which is touted as flat but actually has a little skosh of normal camber. The EHP IS flat as is the Katana. FWIW, the HT feels more nimble than the Katana despite the extra bit of width.

SJ
post #9 of 21
I'm with SJ.

I'm 160 lbs and the 178 Mythic is my daily driver.

I have Huge Troubles for the deep days. It doesn't float quite as well as a rockered ski, but is extremely versatile & stable and crushes the day-end chop & crud

Having said that...a few people I trust just rave about the Rossi S7. But I can't find a shop that demos it.
post #10 of 21
Thread Starter 
Thanks everyone, some good discussion.

Re-skier: Generally looking for a pretty burly big mountain ski, not necessarily a dedicated powder ski. The 172MR is probably a touch short for me, which is maybe why I'm feeling more of a speed limit on these? as an all-rounder they're still great.

SJ, re: rockered vs. traditional - I'm leaning more toward traditional camber mostly because I don't get the bottomless days all that often and want something a bit more versatile.

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post #11 of 21
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Thanks everyone, some good discussion.


steve: gotta fill out the quiver so I can win this year's photo contest
So we'll soon see the "What's the best wide angle lens" thread soon?
post #12 of 21
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SJ, re: rockered vs. traditional - I'm leaning more toward traditional camber mostly because I don't get the bottomless days all that often and want something a bit more versatile.
IMO that's the best path to take. There are a lot of choices and I'd suggest that you creep upward from 100 toward the 110 (ish) range.

There are lots of choices but here are a few quick thumbnails.

Huge Trouble: (115) Twin, minimal camber, highly manuverable but very stable underfoot.

Volkl Katana: (111) Kicktail, flat camber, stable with a deliberate feel.

Legend XXL: (109) Small kicktail, normal camber, straight shape. A bomber especially in the 194.

Nordica Blower: (110) Kicktail in the older versions, flat tail in '09. Normal camber, more shape than most, medium stiff, versatile (for this width) out of the deeps.

SJ
post #13 of 21
suggestions for 100+ skis




yeah, they take up a lot of space, so plan ahead
post #14 of 21
Moment skis manufactured close to Tahoe/Reno is the brand I'd have a close look at. A buddy of mine skis there too, is a true ripper and swears by these sticks. Do a Google search.
post #15 of 21
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The 172MR is probably a touch short for me, which is maybe why I'm feeling more of a speed limit on these?
190 lbs and agressive? You should definetly try a much longer ski. A short big mountain charging type ski is just gonna hold you back.
post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by PowHog View Post
Moment skis manufactured close to Tahoe/Reno is the brand I'd have a close look at. A buddy of mine skis there too, is a true ripper and swears by these sticks. Do a Google search.
cool- I like that they're local. Sure are some kind of ugly tho'...
post #17 of 21
I have to admit I liked the old Iron Curtain graphics on the Comis better. But if I were to buy a traditional-style ski for charging, that'd be it.
post #18 of 21
Although there's no rocker and they are of the traditional design I would consider the Watea 101. They're only available in 192, which I would think is perfect for you.
post #19 of 21
If you want to demo any of the PMGear skis (Bro Models, Lhasa Pows) they are all available for demo at Cornice Sports (next to Bub's) at Kirkwood. PMGear is also based in Reno. (and for another 'local' indie ski company check out Praxis in Truckee too).
post #20 of 21
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces View Post
If you want to demo any of the PMGear skis (Bro Models, Lhasa Pows) they are all available for demo at Cornice Sports (next to Bub's) at Kirkwood. PMGear is also based in Reno. (and for another 'local' indie ski company check out Praxis in Truckee too).
nice! last week would've been perfect, that's when (and where) I was realizing it would be nice to have some wider boards... I'll be there again soon
post #21 of 21
Since you really don't know what you're looking for I'd recommend going for a solid fat ski at a good price. You can't beat the deal Sierra Jim has for Nordica Blowers. You can find his deal at:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=76585

I have some 185cm Blowers & I'm very happy with them. You can find fat skis that do specific things better but for overall performance they are hard to beat.
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