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Elan MagFire 78 Ti or Movement Yaka Jam

post #1 of 16
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I was looking at buying either the Elan MagFire 78 Ti or the Movement Yaka Jam. I have heard lots of good things about Elan skis but I don't know much about Movement. Does anyone have any advice for me? Both skis are priced well, the Elan is under $900 with bindings and the Movement is $700 no bindings. They both have wood cores, and the Yaka Jam is a little fatter. I guess I should also mention that I am in my mid 40's, over 20 years of skiing, I like to say I am an expert but more likely advanced. I ski in the North East, Jay, Sutton etc. Trees, bumps and steeps, and get out once a week. Also I saw that Movement has an order on line option and offers credit to its customers??? That has to suck for the retail world??? If you good folks out there could pass on any advice to me I would be most appreciative. HAPPY NEW YEAR Epic Ski!
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First, Happy New Year to you! I was hoping that someone would have had experience with both of these skis, but I'll offer what I can. I have only skied the previous Magfire 12, not the ski that you want feedback on (and I wasn't impressed particularly favorably or negatively). I own the Yaka Jam and have about three days on it so far (mostly packed snow here in BC, with some limited fresh and crud). Based on my limited time with the Yaka Jam, my first impression is that it has a soft snow bias. The ski definitely has a speed limit as it can be quite chattery at higher speeds. I have really enjoyed it so far, but my initial thought was that it might not be well suited for typical eastern conditions. I have not taken it into the trees or on to really steep terrain yet, but I hope to do that this weekend (snow coverage on steeps has been sketchy).

As for the ski itself, my observation is that it has excellent construction and finish. I have observed this with other Movement skis as well. I would characterize the ski as being light and responsive (as opposed to a heavier ski that will blast through snow, like my Nordica Afterburners). So far, my preference is to ski it in resort conditions that have mostly fresh snow and to have the Nordicas for more packed conditions.

I know that this info isn't going to be especially helpful with such limited detail, but I thought I'd offer what I could. I really like the Yaka Jam and find it to be very versatile, but I'm not too sure about the suitability back east. I would characterize it as a an "advanced sker's" ski based on finding the speed limit. It has a medium-ish flex that is well rounded but it does not have the high speed performance of a true expert's ski. Hope this helps somewhat.
post #3 of 16
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Thanks Alberto. I was thinking that the Yaka Jam might be a Western ski, and not do well on the Eastern hard pack (ICE). Speed would be an issue, it's not that I like to tuck but if it starts to chatter at speed on the soft snow imagine what it would do on ice... That's too bad, as the price was in my budget and I love wood core skis.
post #4 of 16
The Mag 78ti is a very nice ski. Great edgehold, feels very like a GS ski. It holds well and has a big sweet spot. I haven't skied the Movement product, but if I was looking for a ski that wasn't too demanding and had great edgehold, it would be at the top of my list. It is up there with the Fischer Cool Heat in that regard (another great ski that is overlooked!)
post #5 of 16
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Thanks dawgcatching. Sounds like the Mag 78ti would do well on Ice but what about tight turns in the trees?
post #6 of 16
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Thanks dawgcatching. Sounds like the Mag 78ti would do well on Ice but what about tight turns in the trees?
It is fairly turny: not a full Slalom feel where it always wants to be on edge, but definitely not a straightline ski. It will easily come around if you give it a bit of edge angle. The float is plenty enough for moderately deep new snow, up to say around 8-10".
post #7 of 16
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I never see more than 10" (of snow that is)((sorry had to add that)), ski mostly Ice pack here in Quebec. Looks like I'm going to look for a deal on a pair of Mag 78ti, thanks again dawgcatching.
post #8 of 16
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I never see more than 10" (of snow that is)((sorry had to add that)), ski mostly Ice pack here in Quebec. Looks like I'm going to look for a deal on a pair of Mag 78ti, thanks again dawgcatching.
PM me if you are in the market, we have them for $569 right now. This is a great hardpack ski: I have sold a couple to East-Coasters and they have thought it to be a worthy replacement of the 666.
post #9 of 16
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Oh, oh, what's the 666? Is that $569 with bindings?
post #10 of 16
Elan 666 - a great ski imho
post #11 of 16
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Oh, oh, what's the 666? Is that $569 with bindings?
No, that is a discontinued model. It was a cult favorite for a few seasons: laminate construction, 2 sheets of metal, reasonable flex, very versatile ski. Very typical Elan, and that ski was the reason I brought them into the store and became a dealer.
post #12 of 16
Thanks for the Elan 666's Scott - i love em and been on them for 3 seasons.
post #13 of 16
I am most likely outdated here BUT, I love my Elan Magfire 10's.

I was a Fischer skier for many years and made the switch to Elan's after hearing good things about Elan, wanting an all-mountain ski I made the jump. They are every bit what you would expect in a Fischer ski but not better, IMO.

Groomers, bumps, short turn, long turn the Mag 10 has performed very well, for me.
post #14 of 16
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Dawgcatching the Mag 78ti you quoted for $569, is that with bindings? If so, what type of binding? Also what would shipping to Montreal QC, Canada H8T 3C2 set me back? Thanks again.
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Dawgcatching the Mag 78ti you quoted for $569, is that with bindings? If so, what type of binding? Also what would shipping to Montreal QC, Canada H8T 3C2 set me back? Thanks again.
Yes, that comes with the Elan ELD12 binding, which is basically a Tyrolia Free Flex 12 binding with different graphics. Good binding: standard Diagonal, DIN to 12. IT is the standard binding on the all the high-end Elan's, except for the race carver skis, which get a DIN of 14.

Shipping will set you back another $45 to Canada. If you can get it delivered to an address in the US, we can do it for $25, but that may not work for you.
post #16 of 16
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Dawgcatching, I'll let you know if it is a go, just trying to convince my wife that a need a new pair of skis again this year...
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