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post #31 of 49

I think the question has been answered!!

Volkl Mantra!!
post #32 of 49
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Originally Posted by BigE View Post
You think I'm making this up??????

2009 9x WX OVERSIZE.

The 9s oversize is 70 at the waist.
No; I've read enough of your posts to know that you wouldn't be making this up and that there must be a 9x with those dimensions. I was just wondering what games Rossignol is playing with the names. I guess they really are separating the World Cup (Radical RX) skis from the non-FIS "race" (R9X) skis.

It is hard to believe an 80 mm ski can perform like a gs race ski, but then again I was never very fond of the non-race-stock Rossi 9X anyway (a sort of ..works for all skiers but doesn't excel at anything ski).

Come to think of it, most folks would probably make more use out of an 80 mm 15-m radius ski than a true GS ski anyway.
post #33 of 49
+1 for Volkl Mantra,although i havent skied any of the others. but for crud it is amazing.
post #34 of 49
Last week at Whistler I skiied on:

Volkl Mantra 177
Volkl Mantra 184
K2 Apache Coomba 181
Salomon Lord 177
Rossignol CX80 180

Best all around was the Mantra 177 - great in soft snow, chopped snow, solid on hard pack. The 184 was a little sluggish, I preferred the 177.

The Rossi CX80 was AWESOME on hardpack - I didn't get to ski it in powder - if 80mm is enough for you in powder, these skiis may be the real deal.

Best in powder was the Coomba, but they have no grip on hardpack.

FYI I am 5'11", 175# and very competent.
post #35 of 49
192cm Elan 777

if your really an expert these are what you ski....
post #36 of 49
I agree with the mantra..

There are several others however,,

Movement Thunder
Head 1m88
Line Prophet 90
Pm gear Bro 179/183
Head Mojo 94
Elan 888

Try to ski all of these... You can't go wrong w/any IMO....

Happy hunting...
post #37 of 49
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
It is hard to believe an 80 mm ski can perform like a gs race ski,
You need to try the Volkl Tigershark 12 ft : 124-79-108

Take 15mm from each: 109-64-93.

A Volkl P-60 GS is 108-65-94......

So you get a 17.1 M GS cheater ski that's 79 mm underfoot, so slightly slower in transition. The Tigershark 12 ft is an AMAZING ski.

If your idea of an ideal Eastern ski includes a cheater GS sidecut, this might just be the ticket.
post #38 of 49
bsimeral

Do your son a favor...don't buy skis for him. Let him look at the ski reviews on Peter Keelty's Real Skiers $20 subscription web site and make up a demo list for him to try. Then, buy the ski that puts the biggest smile on his face.

Just about every ski mentioned above is suitable for his skiing. But...but every skier is different with different movement details and different favorites. The only way he'll know which one is best for him is to demo.

By the way, Rossi guys, QuikSilver finally found a buyer for Rossi/Dynastar/Lange. The Macquarie Group from Australia and their investors are the new owners.
post #39 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigE View Post
You need to try the Volkl Tigershark 12 ft : 124-79-108

Take 15mm from each: 109-64-93.

A Volkl P-60 GS is 108-65-94......

So you get a 17.1 M GS cheater ski that's 79 mm underfoot, so slightly slower in transition. The Tigershark 12 ft is an AMAZING ski.

If your idea of an ideal Eastern ski includes a cheater GS sidecut, this might just be the ticket.
the problem with skis like the tigershark, metron, blizzard 8.7. and other ski that people claim to be like a race ski is that they dont respond to race ski like angles.
post #40 of 49

One more vote for Mythic Riders

I am a Tahoe skier and so far I absolutely love my Mythic Riders. I almost feel that this ski was born to ski Tahoe. Great crud performance, stable, blasts through heavy snow with ease, quick, awesome carver, and with 88mm underfoot very good in soft snow. A true all-arounder that is loads of fun to ski. For the record, I demoed the MRs with Mantra and absolutely hated the Mantra, it was too squirrely and it always wanted to do its own thing. Mythics felt like an extension of my body.

Alex
post #41 of 49
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
the problem with skis like the tigershark, metron, blizzard 8.7. and other ski that people claim to be like a race ski is that they dont respond to race ski like angles.
In what way?
post #42 of 49
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
the problem with skis like the tigershark, metron, blizzard 8.7. and other ski that people claim to be like a race ski is that they dont respond to race ski like angles.
Nothing carves like a racing ski and Tigersharks are not racing skis. For decades there were few choices for expert skiers....low performing, forgiving recreational skis or high perfromance racing skis. Off the shelf racing skis that could be used for non racing or racing and race room skis for the elite racers. None of these had the performance of todays high end recreational skis. We skied GS racing skis in powder and did just fine. In the midwest we usually skied SL racing skis due to the short runs.

Skis like the Tigershark give experts a ski that carves like a racing ski (not as well of course) but are much easier and fun to ski in a variety of non-race conditions.

I have skied the Tigershark 10ft in the midwest the past 2 seasons and enjoy the combination of performance and ability to ski all hard snow, crap conditions we get.

Once a year I demo racing skis and enjoy the hold and pop but I am never disappointed going back to all mountain carvers like the Tigershark.
post #43 of 49
Just got the Dynastar Legend Pro XXL in 194 and I love it! Total crud buster killer big mountain ski. If you're a strong skier you can rip in the bumps and trees w/o problem. Also got it on some hard stuff and they rip some longer radius turns. I haven't found a speed limit to these skis. Me: 6'2" 195, racing background.
post #44 of 49
my 1 ski quiver is the Movement Thunder. I love it. I skied the Mantra the last two seasons and I like this ski better. I live in the east but just skied 5 days in Montana and the Thunder just rails on everything. Carves really well on groomers and performs best in a couple of inches of fresh snow and cut up pow. It likes to go fast. Only time I have problems is in shallow powder. The tips can dive if I'm not careful. If it's steep then its no problem. I'm 6'3", 190 and ski the 187 length.
post #45 of 49
Atomic Crimson Ti in a 176 for skiers 225 and less. At 128/86/114 they will perform in every condition even deep powder with the the best of them but carve better than most. If lighter than 200 another great choice for unreal allrounder is the XWing Furry very simular dimentions just a little softer but works almost just as well from hard groomers to deep powder. I skiied the twin tip guns yesterday and hated them. Tring the Lord on the weekend or Wed? If you can get your hands on some old pocket rockets mount some AT,s on youll have a great combo also. My friend has Pockets with Dukes and they rip everything! The gun is way to wide now for the flex in the 188. They are real light but i think would benifit from a wood core for stability at speed on less than deep dry Powder. The Pockets are way more versitile. The rossi S3 looks interesting also with a wood core for an all rounder. Lastly the xxl stormriders in a 178 would be all of my picks. Im not to fond of skis over 100 at the waist for all rounders because there on piste performance sucks compared to 85-95 waisted skis that have more side cut. Over 100 will only be out standing in the deeper powder only! Even crude wood cored 85-95 waist skis with 120+ shovels devour it and ski powder just fine. Heck i can ski powder just fine with my 1990 solomon 7sk in a 205! I think we get lost in the bigger is better to much these days? Ive been tring out lots of skis lately and Ive come to the conclution for me anyway that the terrain I ski under 100 at the waist with some real shape but a little stiffer rocks it all! 60/40 or even 70/30 on to off piste shape feels right to me with high speed railers. You take a 100mm out to rail on hard pack you can get bucked if your not very carful. They just dont have the feel kinda wishy washy to me? We get 3-5ft dumps of nice light fluff lots way up hear near Alaska and even the old atomic B9 keeps me up on top carving and in the trees at 220lbs in the deep stuff. Sure a Seth or Gotama is going to float you but on the other days when its warmer or hasnt snowed in a few days if you cant pick and choose the days you go out and only have a one ski that hast to do it all Ill want somthing like a CrimsonTI,Furry, or S3 for sure. I realy like the atomic Crimson TI if you havent noticed.
post #46 of 49
Scott Crusade.
Damp, stiff, very stable in variable snow conditions. Short radius and excellent edge hold on hard snow.
Really a great ski.
post #47 of 49
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Originally Posted by MEfree30 View Post
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Mythic Rider yet...
Here we go: "Dynastar Mythic Rider".
post #48 of 49

Watea 94.   Surprising good on groomers.  Very Good in crud.  Quick, fun.  

post #49 of 49

I'd recommend these:


Volkl Mantra

Nordica Enforcer

Dynastar Mythic Rider

K2 Outlaw

K2 Explorer

 

I went with the Nordica Enforcer myself, got a good deal on them.

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