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post #31 of 41
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Originally Posted by lilfoot1598 View Post
I went into the shop to take the boots back and, after close to 2 hours in the store, walked out with the very same pair of boots. I was basically told that no boot with adult soles will fit my size foot and that I am basically "screwed." Their words, not mine. I tried on the Tecnica Attiva race boot with a 260 mm sole, but it still felt too big and was much roomier on the sides and the top of my foot. I was told that the junior version of the Diablo would fit the same way and that it doesn't come any smaller than the 260 mm sole.

So, according to the store, my options are:
1. Return my ski/binding package and start completely over, buying the junior version of everything.
2. Purchase a custom line to take up some of the space.


My salesperson/bootfitter was convinced that these were my only two options. When I mentioned some things I've heard here, he got so exasperated with me that he left to get some footbeds and just never came back. I left the store in tears.
Lilfoot. I'm sorry that you're dealing with this frustration, but they are steering you wrong in the interest of selling you THAT Boot.

If Sierra Jim, Epic and Mt Lion say that you can get an alternate boot that will fit you and fit your adult bindings then that is the truth.

The EpicSki Boot fitters are good!
post #32 of 41

race program?

Wow, troubling thread.....no bear should ever spend a dime in that shop, that is so unacceptable.....

Couple thoughts...

Many of my lady friends with small feet in my ski school I taught with years ago ski'd in Tecnica jr race boots at a very high level and with comfort.....the advice given here is spot on I think. Folks with bigger feet(I think Tecnica makes them up to a 26.0 sole size) had less success because the cuff was too low but this should not be a problem for you.

I often see Tecnica jr race boots on ebay, often NIB. I think an ebay purchase would be better for you than what you have, unthinkable normally.

Strongly suggest you buddy up with the jr race program at Mt Hood for product sourcing, as said in this thread those lil rippers gotta be gearing up somewhere.

Don't give up, you can do this.

Good luck!
post #33 of 41
Just return everything for a refund, you have not skied on it, so you can still get your money back. Don't ever deal with that shop, for buying major equipment period.

Get your boots first, you can always get skis and bindings after that, and they will only get cheaper as the season goes on. Epic is full of knowledgeable bootfitters most of whom have their own shops. I cannot imagine that there is no one here that can help you.

Where are you located? If there is a local shop that knows what they are doing, I am sure someone here knows about that shop; if there are none, people here may be happy dealing with you by mail. Whenever you get to do a ski trip to a place that has a good shop, ou can get the fit dialed in, but a proper sized boot will be an major improvement even without tweaking. Any monkey can sell ski equipment, but it takes knowledge and experience to sell you the right equipment. This is especially true with boots; good luck.
post #34 of 41
I think that the technica boot is the right answer

1) it IS an adult sole'ed boot

2) it IS smaller then 265mm, so will be 5-15mm shell fit.

3) you just need to find a pair, and then you can use your skis/bindings that you have.

I think that you have an answer to the problem?

Another option is the older lange WC team 100 is the smallest fitting size 22.
I have some in stock, and if you hunt ebay you can find some too. just make sure it is the 265 (or 267?) mm boot. ignore the US sizes on the liner and shell.
search "lange team 100" you should find em
post #35 of 41
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Originally Posted by mntlion View Post
I think that the technica boot is the right answer

1) it IS an adult sole'ed boot

2) it IS smaller then 265mm, so will be 5-15mm shell fit.

3) you just need to find a pair, and then you can use your skis/bindings that you have.

I think that you have an answer to the problem?

Another option is the older lange WC team 100 is the smallest fitting size 22.
I have some in stock, and if you hunt ebay you can find some too. just make sure it is the 265 (or 267?) mm boot. ignore the US sizes on the liner and shell.
search "lange team 100" you should find em
My current Lange boots are 266 mm and are too big.

I shell fit the Tecnica Attiva Pro 100 in 260 mm and even it looked too big. It also didn't feel as good, as the area around my foot felt very loose. Will the Tecnica Diablo jr. boot fit the same way? If it will fit smaller, I'll order the boot. Does it come in a sole size that is smaller than 260mm? I cannot locate that information online.
post #36 of 41
Girl advice time ! Girlfriend, all the significant meaningfull advice that I've read for your needs boils down to...... spend the time getting to the right bootfitter. Call ahead, discuss , make appt. Commit if the discussion goes well. Caveat , bootfitters don't committ till they see & measure your feet. But you have good info for a start in the relationship !)

Personal experience - I drive 2- 2 1/2 hours to my bootfitter. I could chose another, still 2 hrs. Sooooo worth it. Even if an adjustment is needed, I can happily & comfortably ski knowing I will get there sometime for that minor tweek for absolute perfection. But can comfortably ski until then. And the experience of what might need to be tweeked is good to experience.

Just do it ! (yeah, I do boycott Nike, but I will use their millions of dollars slogan when apropos.)
post #37 of 41
lilfoot,

I am thoroughly embarrassed for the bootfitting profession and for the situation that has you so confused in Portland.

There has been some good information for you in this thread, although some conflicting and confusing information as well. I am going to make 8 statements that need to be made to clear out some of the smoke and mirrors:

1. The Tecnica Diablo Race 90,110,or 130 or Attiva 100 in a 21.5 mondo are(is) the only 260mm BSL available with an adult sole.

2. The Tecnica Diablo Race 90,110,or 130 or Attiva 100 in a 21.5 mondo are a better shell fit for your foot then any brand or model of boot in a 265,266, or 267mm BSL. These shells, no matter what is going on with the liner sizing will not hold your heel down and back to the shell.

3. The Tecnica Diablo Race Team 70 or the Nordica Doberman Team 70 ( the exact same boot in different color) are also a viable option for a size 21.5 mondopoint foot. They do not fit the same as the adult soled counterparts. They are dimensionally matched to a smaller thinner junior last. They can also be stiffened with cuff rivets to increase stiffness if a 70 flex is too soft.

4. The Tecnica Diablo Race Team 70 or the Nordica Doberman Team 70 in a 21.5 mondopoint are a junior dimension boot sole shape. This means that they will only fit in a junior binding.

5. There are junior bindings that will work for your size and weight and fit properly with the Tecnica Diablo Race Team 70 or the Nordica Doberman Team 70.

6. There are not custom Intuition, or Zip Fit, or Conformable, or Stroltz liners built to fit into a 21.5 mondopoint shell. In some cases these guys do not even make a true 22 mondopoint liner.

7. The boot is the most important part of the equation. Get the boot sorted out first and then you can figure out how to get the boot attached to your ski of choice.

8. There are ski shops and bootfitters out there that could solve your dilemma. Unfortunately for you, they may not be located in or near Portland, OR. If you are willing to take a trip to Bend, Mark Elling at Mt Bachelor Ski Area could solve your problem. PM me if you are interested in making contact with him to set up an appointment.

Best of luck,

jim
post #38 of 41
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Originally Posted by 911over View Post
Girl advice time ! Girlfriend, all the significant meaningfull advice that I've read for your needs boils down to...... spend the time getting to the right bootfitter. Call ahead, discuss , make appt. Commit if the discussion goes well. Caveat , bootfitters don't committ till they see & measure your feet. But you have good info for a start in the relationship !)

Personal experience - I drive 2- 2 1/2 hours to my bootfitter. I could chose another, still 2 hrs. Sooooo worth it. Even if an adjustment is needed, I can happily & comfortably ski knowing I will get there sometime for that minor tweek for absolute perfection. But can comfortably ski until then. And the experience of what might need to be tweeked is good to experience.

Just do it ! (yeah, I do boycott Nike, but I will use their millions of dollars slogan when apropos.)
Girl, I hear ya! Believe me, I've taken each and every piece of advice from this board and others into consideration. Unfortunately, for every piece of advice I've received, I've received a piece of conflicting advice. I have spent hours upon hours each day over the past few days trying to sort it all out. I spent an hour and a half with about four boot fitters in a local shop last night and every one of them gave up on me. I've called every shop in Portland and on Mt. Hood. Twice. The boot fitters in town are simply telling me that they have nothing for me. I finally found someone who seems intelligent and worth trying. I'll be visiting him next week.

Because I'm having such a hard time finding a fitter with appropriate stock, I've been trying to solve this problem on my own. I now realize that I can't do it on my own. But I'm still looking for a boot fitter and I don't know how much a fitter can do if he doesn't have a single boot to fit me in.

There simply isn't much to be found in Oregon. I don't think I can be blamed for trying to avoid making a four-hour drive to Seattle, but I may end up doing it if all else fails.

Thanks to everyone for your tireless advice. I'm exhausted and exasperated and I bet you are, too.
post #39 of 41
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by starthaus View Post
lilfoot,

I am thoroughly embarrassed for the bootfitting profession and for the situation that has you so confused in Portland.

There has been some good information for you in this thread, although some conflicting and confusing information as well. I am going to make 8 statements that need to be made to clear out some of the smoke and mirrors:

1. The Tecnica Diablo Race 90,110,or 130 or Attiva 100 in a 21.5 mondo are(is) the only 260mm BSL available with an adult sole.

2. The Tecnica Diablo Race 90,110,or 130 or Attiva 100 in a 21.5 mondo are a better shell fit for your foot then any brand or model of boot in a 265,266, or 267mm BSL. These shells, no matter what is going on with the liner sizing will not hold your heel down and back to the shell.

3. The Tecnica Diablo Race Team 70 or the Nordica Doberman Team 70 ( the exact same boot in different color) are also a viable option for a size 21.5 mondopoint foot. They do not fit the same as the adult soled counterparts. They are dimensionally matched to a smaller thinner junior last. They can also be stiffened with cuff rivets to increase stiffness if a 70 flex is too soft.

4. The Tecnica Diablo Race Team 70 or the Nordica Doberman Team 70 in a 21.5 mondopoint are a junior dimension boot sole shape. This means that they will only fit in a junior binding.

5. There are junior bindings that will work for your size and weight and fit properly with the Tecnica Diablo Race Team 70 or the Nordica Doberman Team 70.

6. There are not custom Intuition, or Zip Fit, or Conformable, or Stroltz liners built to fit into a 21.5 mondopoint shell. In some cases these guys do not even make a true 22 mondopoint liner.

7. The boot is the most important part of the equation. Get the boot sorted out first and then you can figure out how to get the boot attached to your ski of choice.

8. There are ski shops and bootfitters out there that could solve your dilemma. Unfortunately for you, they may not be located in or near Portland, OR. If you are willing to take a trip to Bend, Mark Elling at Mt Bachelor Ski Area could solve your problem. PM me if you are interested in making contact with him to set up an appointment.

Best of luck,

jim

I could just kiss you for that list! Finally some clarity! I'll take this list with me the next time I go into a shop for easy reference - hopefully it'll help.

Seriously, a warm thanks to Jim and everyone else who has responded to this post for taking so much time out of your busy schedules to help me with this problem. I cannot BELIEVE how much of a stressful mess it's been, but I'm grateful that this kind of community exists to help me through it. Hopefully I'll find a resolution soon.
post #40 of 41
Lilfoot, I'm telling you! EpicBootGuys Rock!!!
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