sign of the timesIs it the case that fewer ski companies will be producing a true "skier's ski"? probably. there is no profit in it. most skiers that can handle a ski like that are pros and comp skiers. They want a bro deal (will nver pay retail). In fact, very few humans (huge power and strong technique required) can ski the '08 186 or 19_. Even so, the ski should be available as it completes the line of models by including the extremes at both ends, and validates the ski brand as the kine. As to 08/09 models, I ski the 08 LP in a 176 (140lb) on big days. The flex is built differently for each length produced, you can even see the different thickness of the sidewall under the boot. (contrast Mantra) This tuned flex, progressive thickness, is the ideal way to produce a ski model. You don't want to over-size this ski (08 and earlier anyway), dynastar already made it bad-ass enough. Handling both models, side by side, it is evident that the '09 is a softer flex, more suitable to the typical expert.