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post #31 of 40
I have indeed widened my stance in bumps and have gone to a highly shaped slalom type ski.

I have changed the way I look at bumps, ski bumps and teach bumps dramatically in the last couple of years. I seldom ski a pivot turn in bumps anymore and have gone to getting the skis way out from underneath me even in our nastiest midwest bumps.

I still start teaching on groomed from a modified pivot slip and build to a round short turn. One needs to have a variety of short blended turns in the tool chest from pivot to round for bumps. Absorption and extension are much more lateral and the absorption is taken up in the hip ball joint instead of in the knees and lower back. I spend much more time teaching how to easily change turn size, timming and intensity, philosophy and tactics.

As far as tactics in the bumps, I have put much more emphasis on reading bumps, different turn blending for different shapes of bumps. I put much less emphasis on selecting a line for rhythm in bumps (that is necessary for pivot type turns). More emphasis on turn size and variety. More emphasis on line recognition and changing lines in the middle of the run. In short, I teach skiers how to really read bumps and not care where they enter the bumps,or whats in front of them, or maintaining that rhythm we worshiped in the past. Just fun low impact bumps skiing with tremendous variety.

>>Bumps were great last night you should have been here! The shape was such you could ski on, around, on the back, or in. Shaped kind of like nice teardrops with soft icing on top and solid footing underneath and flowing top to bottom!<<

From you're profile I haven't a clue where your home resort is. Where are you skiing?
post #32 of 40
Hey Pierre,
I'm young and have ambitions of ripping the zipper line like Travis Mayer, all I'm lacking is the skill. I can get it right sometimes on shallower bump runs where speed control is not so much of an issue (there are few things funner than ungroomed blues, which are far too rare IMHO). But anything that makes skiing bump runs easier, and aids in controlling speed down the fall line is worth looking into. However, I'm probably having more trouble than Adema picturing your technique. You said you have video of yourself skiing difficult bump runs, is there anyway you could make this video availabe for other people to see. I'd be very interested in having a look.
post #33 of 40
Bob, your animation is a fantastic representation of a move that is is critical to smooth bump skiing but very difficult to explain and conceptualize verbally. Nice job!

What this side view doesn't show, though, is the rotation of the legs relative to the upper body if the skier is traveling down the "zipper line" and making turns at each mogul. Are you working on an animation showing the view from the front?
post #34 of 40
All right--you're asking a lot! I may be the world's worst artist, so don't laugh. But here's a preliminary sketch version of a head-on bump animation, attempting to show the same absorption movements as the previous animation, combined with the steering movements of good turns. Note that the skis go pretty much the direction they're pointed all the time--no tail-pushing or intentional skidding. This is NOT the typical competition bump "turn"!

Best regards,
Bob Barnes
post #35 of 40
Originally posted by Bob Barnes/Colorado:
All right--you're asking a lot! I may be the world's worst artist, so don't laugh. .......
Looks great to me!
post #36 of 40

First off, I am a bump enthusiast, competitor of the past, and I'm trying to make my own come back 20 years later  I am reading this forum, and mostly I am a newbie in the blog or forum world, but it is nice to know there are some experienced mogul skiers such as myself, out there that used to rip zippers ,40-50k mil vert in 80's. KT22, Highline Prima Pronto Log Shoot, Birds of Prey, Mary Jane, Alta, real bumps, made by bumpers..fast turns! I am 46 now and .. the sad thing is the knee complaints ,I Was singing the same blues, but I have about fully recovered to the fitness level,and joint function of when i was a kid,  no pills, just therapies by the right docs, which I am, and my wife did alot of work I figured away to revive the hips and knees , low back and discs at least to the point that I skied 20k a day for 38 days with minimal issues, including quite a bit of air in bumps, and powder other kickers.  so the fact is recovery of the athletic ability to rip zipper lines, , or rip bump runs all day top to bottom, however you choose to get down, is achievable to reach that point again, with effort and knowledge, IF you want to know more, I'll be happy to share, drop me a message and we'll talk.  My best advise is be easier on your body until your hitting em 100 days a season, and your muscles are conditioned enough to hit em harder and faster.

Edited by drbumps - 4/13/2009 at 10:10 pm GMT
post #37 of 40



Welcome to Epic.


What many skiers do in bumps is impact the bump, rather than use retraction movements to minimize impacts.  Also if the position over the skis is off (even a small amount), there is more impact than retraction (or  active absorption).  As you know, zipper line bump skiing is awesome fun when in balance over the skis.



post #38 of 40

Hey ron, thanks for the feed back, Nice to hear from an expert , I am curious which resort you are in.  I look forward to when i can make it that way.  Yea slamming those bumps vs utilizing a technique of being right on top of em, in orderto achieve optiimum absorption is the ideal mogul skiing technique. also flowing thourgh the terrain separating the knees up and down in order to ride shoulders, and inconsistencies.  I met a bumpin buddy @ bachelor one spring in the early 80's or so that shared his boot customizing technique/ combined with a stable (rigid) orthotic  and nice tight boot( then raichle flex comps) now Full tilt.  he wore daleboots.  This rigid arch support, not to mention the boot allowed me to utilize a foot hip knee absorption technique.I could feel the snow better, less cush between the snow and my foot.  I  believe that the cerebellar balance reacts more efficiently to a rigid foot bed than one that is soft.   Feeling and reading the terrain with greater vision and mental focus, rather than agressive slamming reactive impact turns, optimize energy control and possibilities for air and absorbed landings.  I have focused my practice on helping the femur tibial glide flow smoothly by giving more range of motion to each clients hip socket, Femoral-Acetabular.  so that the femur glides smoothly allowing the distal end of the femur to glide smoothly at the tibial plateau.  This allows for less inflammation in turn less deterioration to the joint allowing daily recovery or that joint.  I hope there is someone old like me that I can help ski the bumps faster or again.  Always look forward to communication re: my favorite pass time "The Bumps"

Thanks again,

post #39 of 40




Hey ron, thanks for the feed back, Nice to hear from an expert , I am curious which resort you are in.  I look forward to when i can make it that way.

I Teach full time at Windham Mountain in the northern Catskills of New York.  I do most of my bump skiing either at Hunter Mountain (near by), or in Vermont (Sugarbush has the best ones).



post #40 of 40

Nice life is good! We try to get a full ski  season here in boise's bogus basin, and local brundage in McCall. Best bumps overall out this way is Alta ...tied for second is sunvalley and snowbird in my opinion, enjoy your off season,,

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