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speed control with highC engagement

post #1 of 6
Thread Starter 
I heard many times one need to engage very early to control speed on very steep slope. But I also heard to ski faster one needs to engage early. Which version is true and why? Thanks in advance for any contribution.
post #2 of 6

If you're edges are not engaged then you are free falling. If your edges are engaged than you have the capability to control your line and in many cases the ability to scrub speed in a controlled manner or NOT scrub speed in a controlled manner. Flattened skis have almost not control factor whatsoever, they are just gliding like a runaway sled.

For racing, you want to engage early so that you can choose the line you want to take while avoiding falling into situation where you would be forced to drastically skid your skis around a gate. That is why its faster. But the line you choose can be used for speed control as well and just because you have engaged your edges does not necessarily mean arcing.
post #3 of 6

It depends

Both can be true. Both can be false. From reading your posts, you have the capability to answer your own question. Here are three hints:
1) Speed control can come from manipulating the alignment of the edges versus the direction of travel or manipulating edge angles.
2) Speed control can mean speeding up, maintaining speed or slowing down
3) Pedal hop turns.
post #4 of 6
Thread Starter 
Thanks you both for offering your valuable knowledge. I believe I can understand what you said. I can assure you that this understanding will certainly help me to progress. Your valuable time will not be wasted.
post #5 of 6
Confusing, isn't it. Kind of like:

- Out of sight, out of mind
- Absence makes the heart grow founder


- He who hesitates is lost
- Patience is a virtue

Both the statements can be true, Carver, but it depends on the the type of transition being employed. A pivot is a great speed minimizing tool that uses a later (post pivot) engagement to avoid the speed gain associated with arcing through the top of a turn. So, comparing a pivot transtion with a later engagement, to an arc to arc with a early engagement, the earlier arc to arc engagement will produce the higher speeds.

Now, it you're talking comparing apples to apples, The more quickly you engage and develop high edge angles when skiing arc to arc, the sharper you will turn, the less time you will spend accelerating down the falline, and the slower your resultant speed will be. So here we have the opposite of the first comparison; earlier results in slower.

Now, the final comparison; arc to arc, to a pushy/washy initiation. Wash = speed dumping. When skiing the same line, the earlier and cleaner you can engage a carve the faster you will go. So, the moral of this situational story is; if you want to ski the same line at a little slower speed, abandon pure arc to arc, throw in a little early turn tail push, and engage the carve a bit later, if at all.
post #6 of 6
Thread Starter 
Thanks Rick. Your explanation greatly enhence my understanding.
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