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post #1 of 10
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A local sporting goods chain has some ridiculous markdowns (like 60% off) on Arcteryx outerwear at the moment. I find it a bit confusing the intended use and/or pros and cons of particularly their shells. I also fond that the sizing was inconsistent. For instance the Sidewinder SV is cut almost a full size larger than the Sidewinder AR, both in sleeve length and in the chest.

Can anyone give me a brief breakdown of how the Arcteryx shells are different in terms of their optimal use and how their sizing is relative to "normal"? I am aware that the SV models are just heavier models (for severe weather)while the AR are "all arounders"...and obviously there are hooded models, hidden hoods, and non-hooded. But after that, it becomes less clear.

I am referring mainly to the Alpha, Beta , Theta, Fission, Stingray, Stinger, and Sidewinder lines. For what its worth, I'm trying to determine what model would be optimal for use for the winter months out here in the west....I ski mainly in Mammoth and the like.
post #2 of 10
Keep in mind that there are two broad categories: Climbing and Skiing (going up or going down). Without doing immediate research, it seems to me that a lot of the SV's are targeted towards climbing.

The items setup for skiing will probably have a powder skirt on the inside waist, instead of a simple drawstring closure and also a Recco thingy.

The Stinger (which I got) is SV grade but has a pow skirt and a fold away hood. I wanted something that would protect me on the wetter days. And the hood does fit over my ski helmet.
post #3 of 10
Where is this, out of curiosity?
post #4 of 10
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Originally Posted by monologuist View Post
I am referring mainly to the Alpha, Beta , Theta, Fission, Stingray, Stinger, and Sidewinder lines. For what its worth, I'm trying to determine what model would be optimal for use for the winter months out here in the west....I ski mainly in Mammoth and the like.
It mostly has to do with length of the jackets and weight of the fabric.

Alpha=waist length with longer tail in back.
Beta=waist length with no longer tail, waist is designed to fit above a climbing harness.
Theta=longest, fits at top of thighs in front and below butt in back.
Sidewinders are ski jackets with powder skirts.
Fission is insulated.
Haven't used the Stinger or Stingray.

Letters after the name indicate how heavy duty the fabrics are.

SL=super lightweight
LT=lightweight
AR=all around
SV=severe (weather)

Hope this helps!

Mike
post #5 of 10
I have some theta stuff (jacket and bib pants) that are cut a bit closer than some brands. Well made.
post #6 of 10
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Originally Posted by MikeC View Post
It mostly has to do with length of the jackets and weight of the fabric.

Alpha=waist length with longer tail in back.
Beta=waist length with no longer tail, waist is designed to fit above a climbing harness.
Theta=longest, fits at top of thighs in front and below butt in back.
Sidewinders are ski jackets with powder skirts.
Fission is insulated.
Haven't used the Stinger or Stingray.

Letters after the name indicate how heavy duty the fabrics are.

SL=super lightweight
LT=lightweight
AR=all around
SV=severe (weather)

Hope this helps!

Mike

Thanks! Had no idea that was how they differentiate. Sounds like Sidewinder AR might be a good bet for me...
post #7 of 10
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Originally Posted by monologuist View Post
Thanks! Had no idea that was how they differentiate. Sounds like Sidewinder AR might be a good bet for me...
I have the Sidewinder AR and really like it. Very weatherproof and fits like a glove.

Mike
post #8 of 10
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Yeah so I ended up settling on the Sidewinder AR.

The Sidewinder SV upon closer inspection is actually not THAT much bigger...maybe 1/2 size up. It makes more sens when you try it on with a thicker layer under and wear the sleeves over your gloves instead of under. With cold weather layers, I'd say the Medium is still a full Medium as opposed to "Athletic". With little or no layers, it could almost pass as a Large.

I ended up buying the SV, the AR, and the Stingray, so I could try them on with the rest of my gear at home. I wish I could keep all 3 but the AR will probably be heavy enough for my coldest Cali skiing and I already have a softshell although not as nice as the Stingray. All 3 of these models appear to be designed with skiing in mind.

I just put the Sidewinder SV and Stingray up for sale in the Classified section if anyone is interested...will ebay them this weekend if no takers.
post #9 of 10
Here's the response I got from the Arc'teryx rep when I asked him about what the differences are between a size medium Stingray vs. Sidewinder SV. The body should fit similarly and the main differences are in the torso and sleeve lengths.


The Sidewinder SV will be similar throughout the body in terms of size, but it is a longer jacket. The Sidewinder SV will be 6.2 cm longer in the front and 6.5 cm longer in the back than the Stingray. The sleeves on the Sidewinder SV will also be 7.8 cm longer than those of the Stingray.

Let me know if you have any other questions,
post #10 of 10
where is this store? I would think there may be bears out there who could use some gear at 60% off
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