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Closed gates in GS

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
I was watching the woman's GS from Semmering, and it appears the course did not have a single closed gate.

Back in my day (and that's back a bit...I remember yellow gates) we always had a few, sometimes with interesting implications for the best line.

Are the courses just simple back and forth open gates now? Why not go to single pole?
post #2 of 11
The best course setters set to compliment the terrain, not just to impress with their ability to set combinations. Sometimes a closed/through gate is well suited for the terrain and theme of the course, sometimes it's not.
post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 
I doubt any world cup course setter is trying to "impress with their ability to set combinations"

I found some stuff in the FIS rules. Slalom is still required to have a certain number of closed gate combinations. In GS they are allowed but not required, and should be used "mainly on uninteresting terrain". The top of the Semmering course had nice rollers, the bottom could have used some more creativity.
post #4 of 11

There is no such thing as a closed gate in GS...

...just opens and delays...
post #5 of 11
Just watched the race, newfy. Only highlights from the first run, which only showed course sections, but did see at least one delay. In the second run there were 2 delays. Perhaps you were looking for hairpins and flushes? Didn't see any of those.

Very narrow and straight trail most of the way, which lends itself to long sections of rythmical opens. Delays generally work best on wider slopes, or at bends in the trail.
post #6 of 11
Thread Starter 
only saw the first run. Probably just missed the delay gates.

thanks Rick
post #7 of 11
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Originally Posted by newfydog View Post
Are the courses just simple back and forth open gates now? Why not go to single pole?
This year, setting Slalom with no outside gates is in the FIS rules - experimentally.

http://www.fis-ski.com/data/document/pres-nh-e.pdf (page 2)
post #8 of 11
What about the women getting lost in that SL earlier in the year? That was strange.
post #9 of 11
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Originally Posted by saudan's boudoir View Post
What about the women getting lost in that SL earlier in the year? That was strange.
The story I read was that the next gate was red, and was set close to the red netting, making it difficult to see. Still, it was the first combination (as I recall) on the course. They should have known it was coming.
post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by Richr View Post
The story I read was that the next gate was red, and was set close to the red netting, making it difficult to see. Still, it was the first combination (as I recall) on the course. They should have known it was coming.
Who was it and at what race?
post #11 of 11
women's SL in Levi

i remember Schleper messed up on the first combo, and quite a few others, I know Zettel and Karbon went out, at least one of them at that point I think.
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