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post #31 of 36

Any chance you can put Okemo on there, I am just curious on how steep it can get?


Also, I read that Double Dipper at K-Town can get up to 31+ degrees, is it steeper than Downdraft?

post #32 of 36


Originally Posted by Wraith View Post

Any chance you can put Okemo on there, I am just curious on how steep it can get?


Nothing steep to measure there....


post #33 of 36

That map does not show South Face or the new Jackson Gore area, where I think the steepest trail is, the Big Bang headwall.  Nothing that tough, but I would not mind seeing it as a comparison to other mountains.

post #34 of 36
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Hey, sorry I've never been able to generate enough interest in myself for this site to devote large amounts of time to it ever since the first season or two I put it up. And now, I have been devoting a lot of my time towards schoolwork with the big junior year of high school occuring. If anyone would like to help collect data and pictures, please contact me in a PM or in this thread. If anyone would like to take a major part in the site as well, you may and of course send me a PM. All help would be awesome.


BTW, this is my 1000th post as a Bear on Epic. At 16, I gotta be one of the youngest ever to make it there? Just to reflect on Epic a moment, I joined in Sept of 08, which was when I was 13. Might not have been the most active member, usually only hanging out here during the winters, but it's been a huge part of skiing and myself. I've learned a lot, from techinique to the various ski mountains to even getting myself to start a Ski Run Degrees when I was 14 years old. Socializing about skiing is always the closest I can get to skiing, when I'm not skiing. I thank all the great Bears here on the forums who have treated me great and talked about we all have in common and love - skiing. I appreciate it a lot, and I really should become a supporter here.


Touching on the topic of the actual slope in degrees of specific ski runs, I was always really interested in comparing the most badass runs from mountain to mountain when I was younger, when there were still a number of runs I feared. I still love to compare, but I like to do it with my own subjective eyes on the actual ski slope rather than plugging in points on Google Earth at a computer. The subjective perception is a higher value than Google Earth's calculated values, IMO. As I still remember, when I was 11, Ripcord at Mount Snow looked like a cliff to me and I thought if I fell I'd die. Looking at it now, I obviously know that's not true. But still, over in Verbier when I was 14, I'd ski a steep face and always think about how steep it is. Then, when I'm on the back side of Mont Fort in a 10 foot wide couloir, I'd think how steep that is and compare just for fun in my little brain. A couple months prior to Verbier I was in Val D'Isere, and I still remember this incident vividly. There were these avalanche talks hosted twice a week and I attended that week's talks while I was there. The man running the talk, Henry, asked, "How steep do you guys think The Face, the olympic downhill run, is in the final stretch to the base?" I immediately burst out, "About 25 to 30 degrees". The look on his face still gives me laughs as he'd never expect a then-5 foot tall kid to know that and said, "Wow, I always get people saying 50 to 60 degrees".


So now I'm back, and begging for snow over in NY cuz it's been nearly 60 degrees!

post #35 of 36

I also have a strong interest in gathering statistics to compare ski runs so that we can do quantitiate and opposed to qualitative comparisions.  I hope this data will be interesting and also useful when considering where to ski in the future.  I have personally skied about 75 different ski areas so I can provide some first hand information too.


I actually have a database of several hundred runs throughout North America.  I'd be happy to share this data in the near future.  I also have used Google Earth as my data source.  Google Earth is not perfect but still should provide some insight.  We should probably compare notes for our method of calculating ski run degrees as well.  For a while I was using the "elevation profile" functionality of Google Earth which I have since found to be very inaccurate.  I have now reverted to the following process:


1. Draw a "path" on the desired run

2. Use the path's length value as the horizontal distance of the run  (this appears to be accurate)

3. Use my mouse on a high zoom, to approximate the elevation of the start and end of the path to calculate vertical drop.  (elevation profile too unreliable for this value)

4. Use trig to calculate the average angle of the run.


I plan to recalculate the values derived with the elevation profile soon and then post the current data set in mid Dec.  I don't have a desire to provide a website with this data but I am happy if you or others want to include in your website. 


post #36 of 36
Crazy that Tremblant has some of the steepest runs. I have skied most the runs mentioned from Tremblant with pretty good ease since I was about 12 years old and went there twice a year until about 21 years old. I remember expo had a cliff in the middle of the run and I saw my sister slide all the way down on her ass and back the top portion of the run and over the cliff on one super icy day.

Good info to have. Some info like this for the west would be interesting too.
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