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Your best 07/08 SL slalom ski for groomers

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
My father (9+) skier is looking for a pair of 07/08 (last years) slalom skis primarily for steep groomers. He tried my 06/07 elan slx race stock and liked them, but with the plates, they were too heavy for him. After reading most of the gear reviews I am still undecided, what would be your top 2 or 3? Your opinions are appreciated.

regards,
Robert
post #2 of 17
You can't go wrong with the Fischer RC4 World Cup SL
post #3 of 17
I love my Head iSL Chip 166 - super-smooth, pretty good at speed, very good edge hold. For me at 225 lb they're not lively enough to race, but for faking your way into high edge angles at moderate speeds they're amazing.
post #4 of 17
solly lab in 165
post #5 of 17
volkl
fischer
nordica
rossi (soft but light)

(all stock skis)
post #6 of 17
I own the Atomic SL12PBs (165). They have been a blast on any steep groomers. They are stiff enough to hold at high speeds but do not lock me into only one turn shape. They enjoy short-medium-and longer turns. They are not as stiff as RaceStock models but much more user friendly. Enjoy the search. James.
post #7 of 17
I use a Blizzard SL Mag's in 165 (w/o a plate). If you do a search they get very good reviews.
For sure, almost any other ski will be heavier and slower to set on edge. I've changed from the SL's to a 77 waist in mid-day and you'd have to be brain dead not to feel the added weight. While I love SL skis, physically they demand more effort and attention.
post #8 of 17
Why waste your time? Fat, reverse-cambered, rockered skis are where it's at for hard snow skiing. I have customers tell me this every day, so there must be something to it!

In all seriousness, you can't go wrong with any of the skis listed. I wish I could be on the slalom race stuff, but nobody brings it to the industry demos anymore, at least not out West. We usually have a GS race carver handy, and the odd GS race ski, but slaloms are out of favor on our bigger mountains. The one thing I always found out about skiing a race slalom: it wore me down after a few runs if I skied full-energy. I owned an Elan SLX stock a few years back, and as long as I kept it on edge, I could have run a super-G on it. I ended up migrating toward mid-length carvers as a compromise, instead of the powerhouse slalom ski. Stuff like the RIPstick and Progressor seemed like good carvers with little compromise, although not really suitable for slalom. Another ski to consider, although not a true race ski: Elan Speedwave 14 in a 168cm. I put some Masters' guys on them and they were being used as a combo slalom/freeski.
post #9 of 17
Robert, I bought a pair of Ripsticks from Dawg a couple years ago and agree that they would be a terriffic choice if you can find them. Here is my rather lengthy review. By the way, my knees are 52 years old, and these skis just rip under them. Good luck.
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=52888
post #10 of 17
Over the last three years I have skied almost every race stock slalom there is. If you're looking toward race stock SL's light is not really a adjective that one could use to describe any of them...

However, your best bet is to get a Volkl Racetiger SL (stock / flat) and mount it with a Marker 1200 piston binding (not the WC piston race plate and 1400s, 1600s, or 1800s). Volkls can offer a much lighter platform that is more free skiing friendly than most other skis out there because they do not come mounted with a metal race plate and they are a somewhat soft, very predictable ski.

I don't necessarily agree that there are any slalom skis out there that are faster and easier to get on edge than any others. They all accomplish the same task with a slightly different personality when doing it. For me personally, the Fischer WC SL (real stock version) is hands down the best SL ski I have been on to date... but my favorite SL ski to free ski on is my Nordica Dobermann SLR - two very different slalom skis. My least favorite slalom ski that I have been on is the Blizzard WC SL Mag... It is a great ski, but I don't personally like how it does anything on snow - in or out of a course.

Later

Greg
post #11 of 17
How about something like a Fischer RX8? Not a race ski, but has a race slalom shape. You'll get most of the performance and is a lot less work and more versatile.
post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by JimH View Post
How about something like a Fischer WC SC? Not a race ski, but has a race slalom shape. You'll get most of the performance and is a lot less work and more versatile.
Fixed it for you.
post #13 of 17
If this guy really wants a slalom ski to make slalom turns with slalom-ski performance then the only thing that is going to cut it is a real slalom ski... just because a ski has a 12 - 14 meter turn radius does not make it a slalom ski.
post #14 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the input, based on the comments and other ski reviews, I think the speedwave is the right choice.
post #15 of 17
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Thanks for the input, based on the comments and other ski reviews, I think the speedwave is the right choice.
Have you skied the Speedwave? It doesn't hold a candle to what even a recreational race ski is capable of - let alone a race stock slalom ski...
post #16 of 17
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Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier View Post
If this guy really wants a slalom ski to make slalom turns with slalom-ski performance then the only thing that is going to cut it is a real slalom ski... just because a ski has a 12 - 14 meter turn radius does not make it a slalom ski.
Are you saying that a Metron B5 is not a WC SL?
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Are you saying that a Metron B5 is not a WC SL?



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