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Salomon ten eighty

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
I rented some frestyle Salomon ten eighty double tip skis (177 cm ) in Chapelco Last week .I wanted to try something diferent But I don't do many tricks. I was surprised . I could jump small cornices very safely , ski a little powder an the trees . And it was good enough in bumps ( I even did a couple of modest spread eagles )

Any comments, critics and suggestions?
post #2 of 10
As far as twins go, there are a lot of people who aren't the normal park rats that are getting out on them. And it makes a lot of sense. I've ridden the salomon 1080's, actually owned a pair and wouldn't recommend them, but they just didn't fit my style, I've talked to others that liked them, but for the most part people tend to agree. A lot of the skis on the market are just designed for a narrow audience, and twins seem to go beyond that, they design them for almost anything. But like I say, what really matters is what type of skiing you do, what level you are, weight, height, stuff like that. I work at a shop and have demo'd a lot of stuff and traveled and talked with a lot of people on twins and other skis so if I had those things I would throw out some skis.
post #3 of 10
Fun park skis. Soft. Foam. Spin easliy. Not very stable. Delam quite easily. I might be selling a brand new pair of 181 I just received from warranty replacement.
post #4 of 10
Both my kids (21 year old daughter & 22 year old son) love the latest model of the 1080 that came out last season. It is a much better carving ski and vastly better off-piste ski than the earlier 1080 model. It is a fun ski that is a very friendly powder & crud ski. Probably not suited for high speeds or macho skiing (though my son & his friends think it is). Basically, it is a narrower version of the Pocket Rocket.
post #5 of 10
I, on the other hand, truly enjoy the Teneighty. I have the Cusson pro model from a couple of years ago:

It's lightweight, soft flexing, lots of pop. Just having them on my feet made me want to seek out features to catch air off of. Which I do with great aplomb. Landings feel and SOUND solid.

A little sketchy carving on the hardpack due to its softness but I've managed to compensate with a change in the edge bevel angles. Trees, powder, bumps, and jumps seem fine. It sucks up pipe and kicker transitions nicely - an eye opening experience coming off of "normal" skis.

Only negative point I have, more of a cautionary tale, is the tail. Sometimes it hooks up and pulls the feet back when carving into softer wetter snow. Caught myself a few times. I think this is true of any twintip though.

As for the newer spaceframed teneighty. Well, it squeaks. I don't like the extra width when carving but it adds foregiveness with landings. Really good in powder. Even lighter than the Cusson. Despise the topsheet but I'm not its demographic anyway.
post #6 of 10
Here's the deal (a least my view of it) . The teneighty is meant for pipe and park. It happens to ski soft snow fairly well and carve at moderate speeds. However, I wouldn't want it as my all-mtn. ski. There are far better skis out there with 80-mm waists. If you aren't landing our riding switch, who needs a twin. Also, the comments about it being good in the powder usually come from people who haven't skied wide skis often. A PR kills it in soft snow, although the teneighty is more forgiving everywhere else. Check out the new wider Screams if you want a true all-mtn. feel that lets you catch air and drop cornices with confidence.
post #7 of 10
Originally posted by Bandit Man:
If you aren't landing our riding switch, who needs a twin.
Anyone who enjoys skiing steep chutes and jump turning down stuff would benefit from a ski with a twin-tip.
post #8 of 10
WORD! ...especially in softer snow. One of the few things I hate about my (older) pr of 10ex's is that the tails are flat at pancakes, so whenever I have to slide or shuffle backwards a few steps in heavy thick snow (for whatever reason), the tails always dig in.

OTOH, TT's have disadvantages, too. For example, I cross my tails every now and then in stepping and skating moves. On TT's, that move isn't quite so comfortable. TT's also throw up more of a rooster tail in powder, but that's a problem for the guy in back , not me, so I don't sweat this issue.

Tom / PM
post #9 of 10
Originally posted by BakerBoy:
Anyone who enjoys skiing steep chutes and jump turning down stuff would benefit from a ski with a twin-tip.
Sure...on a different pair of skis! Pistol's, Kahuna's, PR's, BC's, B3's...yup. Most "bears" don't need a teneighty either. Not for its intended use, anyway.
post #10 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the input.
I noticed that the twin tip is a big help in real narrow couloirs between rocks that I love to ski.It allows you to make the small corrections needed to target a small opening between the rocks.

On the other hand , there's a stupid problem with the tail:
when the chairs operators dig a "ski tail stop " for you to hook the tails of your skis and wait for the chair when the departing area is not perfectly flat.With the twin tips you go backwards and you have to make a reversed wedge to stay in place while your neighborg yells at you because you scratch his skis! :
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