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post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
I am 5'2" and weigh about 154 lbs, my skis are usually 165cm

My husband is taller (?5'10" I think) but weighs 143 lbs, his skis are usually 170cm.

We are both about the same standard. If we both start at the top of a hill with an uphill section to come, get into some approximation of the tuck position and let go, he ALWAYS gets further up the uphill bit than I do.

Has he somehow developed better schussing technique than I, or is this just something I have to live with?
post #2 of 15
Just taking a wild guess, here. I find that there's a real subtlety involved in how fast my skis will make it to the top, when going from a downhill to an uphill. The key thing, is how much speed is being built up before the downhill, that will proceed the uphill. {hope that makes sense!} If I make even one turn too many before I point 'em down and go, chances are I would have blown off too much speed, and its going to be a slow ride, or even a climb, to the top. so your husband may be pointing them straight a few seconds earlier than you.

Also, check out your skis. You may think that they are parallel, but there may be a tiny, almost imperceptable wedge. Its amazing how much that could slow you down!

One more thought; Does he get his skis waxed more often than you???
post #3 of 15
OK, I'm sticking my neck out here, while waiting for someone else to post the right answers, but some thoughts:
1. Are you keeping your skis flat on their bases, or are you edging (perhaps both inside edges)?
2. Are your skis running smoothly?
3. Are both sets of skis of similar stiffness?
4. Have they both been waxed recently? (OK, this is probably the No. 1 question)
5. Are you both in the same tuck position? (i.e. have both of you got elbows in front of knees etc)?
6. Ask him where his fore-aft balance is. Is it in the same position as yours?

Ultimately all of the above may have nothing to do with it, but I thought it might be a good place to start!

post #4 of 15
LM, I see we have similar ideas, but you type faster. Either we are both wrong, or maybe not, for a change!

post #5 of 15
It could be the arrow or it could be the indian.

I heard today on public radio that a group of native american students at NCU have a new team mascot for their basketball team. They are calling themselves the "fighting whities"

Sorry Frances, got a little off topic. We have a habit of naming mascot's for our sports teams at the collegiate and professional level and all too many are the "indians".

I'm perplexed by your desire to schuss further and/or I assume more quickly than your hubby. Ever considered turning more efficiently than your better half?

Your answer may involve a myriad of factors including, equipment, wax, technique, etc.
I always used to get annoyed, when on a trail or catwalk that a better skier went "faster" than I.

In short, try to seek the center of your skis and play with a flat ski vs. a ski on edge and see what this does. Try to stand in a manner that you are projecting your center of mass ahead of the skis as opposed to being "on the ski" or against the ski. Fiddle with for/aft balance.

I know this may sound strange, however, there is a big difference between standing on the ski vs. against the ski particularly when "on edge".
post #6 of 15
Fox!! Wonder how many instructors are rolling their eyes at us???
post #7 of 15

No. In this case, it would be the racers rolling their eyes.

The fact that others aren't jumping in to correct you, probably means you answered it the way that the "others" would have.

Wrong thread, but... I get the impression that the non-instructors roll their eyes at the instructor's posts, sarcastically, bowing to their computer screens, saying, "we're not worthy, Mr instructor".
post #8 of 15
My attitude is that it's all about learning. If I have an answer to a problem, I should share it.
If someone else, more knowledgeable posts a better answer, then not only has the questioner learned something, but so have I!
I may be the centre of the universe, but that doesn't mean I am omniscient as well.

There are some on here who roll their eyes every time I post, but that is there loss!

As for instructors rolling eyes at our responses, I think it gives them insight into how we ski, and how we think about skiing, so maybe when I am finally on the slopes with some of you guys, you'll already have a lesson plan for a week to make me a better skier!

Hey, LM, at least we're trying!

post #9 of 15
I was actually just playing around, but i get your point!
post #10 of 15
Thread Starter 
Hey - I'm listening, and it's all useful stuff.

I noticed this in particular in Val d'Isere this year where a lot of the runs have an uphill section towards the lift at the end so we wanted to be going fast in order not to walk uphill (otherwise I agree I'd rather ski better then just schuss faster). We did experiments to ensure we were both starting at the same point.

I don't think it should be anything to do with the ski preparation as we both hire from the same shop, and we've noticed this more than once on different skis. There was one odd week last year when we were both on the same length ski and I regularly out-ran him, which is why I was wondering if ski length & my weight have anything to do with it.

Next time out (Easter) we will watch each other to see if there's any wedge as I find it hard to tell when I'm concentrating on staying upright & in position.
post #11 of 15
yes weight and ski length will make a difference. All things being equal, the longer ski will glide farther and the heavier person will glide further..
post #12 of 15
Frances, I think that you got your answer, still, these are my two cents:
Many years ago, me and my skiing buddy, were playing more or less like you're doing with your hubby.
My set up:
-Voelkl P9 RS-Super (the green ones, very stiff) 205 cm
-Salomon 92 Racing (rear entry high performance (then) boots)
-I weight(ed) 10 kg more than him, we're roughly the same height.
His set up:
-Voelkl P9 RS (the pink ones, less stiff than mine) 195 cm
-Koflach 4 bucles boots
We're at the same skill level (even today).
Skis were maintained more or less with the same frequency (which means, once a year...at the beginning of the season)
Starting from a still, with only a fixed amount of pole pushes, he was constantly
out running me.
So, I'm heavier, got longer/stiffer skis, nevertheless he was faster...
Until I got a new pair of boots.
The "cause" of my repeated "defeats" was an alignement problem, introduced by my very comfortable but less precise boots, which was causing my skis not being totally flat onto the snow...
It was fun, though!

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ March 12, 2002 01:24 PM: Message edited 1 time, by M@tteo ]</font>
post #13 of 15
When your skis wiggle and wobble from side to side they are riding flat. Try to just let them do this.
post #14 of 15
Mass and inertia of a heavier body once in motion.

We see this quite a bit in kids racing. If the kid that's built like a fire plug can hold a tuck they will often beat the kid with much stronger technique.
post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 
Unfortunately I'm the short & heavy one!

Thanks for all the suggestions - I'll see what happens at Easter
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