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Salomon Impact series - What are the real skier-levels?

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
I'm planning to buy a Salomon Impact boot (I tried the 8 and it seemed like a good fit) but I'm confused about the real skier level rather than the advertised one.

I am an intermediate eastern skier, doing primarily blues, slow speeds. I don't really carve (partly because my current boots are a whole size too big, it seems.

Salomon advertises the "Impact 7" as progressing skiers, which usually seems to mean "not doing wedges anymore". The 8 is rated as advanced, and the 9 is rated as an "expert". However, I know that there is also an impact 10, and an impact pro, so I doubt the 9's experts are real experts.

I can buy an old 7 for about $140 and an old 9 for about $240. I'm worried that the seven would be too soft, but also that the 9 may be above my level. Can't find an 8 at a decent price for my size.

Any recs? Am I better off going up even to the expert level? Is the higher end boot more customizable?
post #2 of 12
IMO the levels are to a large extent marketing, i would aim up 8 or 9 but it depends on your body weight and how you bend the boot
post #3 of 12
Where are you getting these skier levels from? I did a quick google and found http://www.rei.com/product/759032. I'm posting for reference to the description of the 9 ( BTW if you buy off REI, you will have to factor in a couple of hundred in for boot-fitting at your local boot fitter).

What do you want from your ski boots? Do you want your skis to do what you tell them to, or do you want them to sorta kinda do what you tell them to in case you tell them to do the wrong thing? If the former, get the higher level boots.

Generally what matters most is that the higher level boots provide a quicker and more forceful transmission of your commands from you to the boot. It's like the difference driving a porsche 911 with bare hands or 4 pair of mittens.

From the posted description I see the 9 has a flex index of 100. That seems like it would be a little low for most serious racers, but fine for most free skiers.

PS, if you are having trouble learning to carve it could be your skis aren't torsionally rigid enough either. I can carve fine on mushy rental boots that don't really fit (I had to do this a few times).
post #4 of 12
The 7 has an 80 flex rating.
How much do you weigh? If you weigh 120 lbs, it might do, if you weigh 165, get the 9.
post #5 of 12
Much of the differences between 8, 9, 10, pro are minor but important. Going from 8 to 9 you get a significantly better liner. 9 to 10 you get a better liner (with heat moldable sections and leather trim) and two screws that stiffen the cuff. 10 to pro gives an additional heat moldable section in the liner and is slightly stiffer.

I think I would at least go for a 9 just to get the better liner. No need to go higher unless you were an aggressive skier.
post #6 of 12
Thread Starter 
I do believe that my current boots affect at least to a degree my ability to carve because when I turn my shorter leg (one is about half an inch to an inch shorter) I feel like it is first moving inside the boot and only if I continue applying force my actual boot will turn.

I am very heavy for my height (170+lbs on a 5"7 frame, that's nearly 80kgs on a 1.7m) and this comes from fat, not muscle

My only worry about picking the 9 is that it would be too stiff and unforgiving. I do make my share of mistakes, though I've never heard of boots being really forgiving, only of skis... I thought with boots the point was that they will transmit as much as possible?
post #7 of 12
you can make boots softer later, but not stiffer.

buy the 9's
post #8 of 12
For what it is worth I have the Impact 8, and am 10-15 pounds lighter than you. I am not a real aggressive skier, and these boots have been great for me.. There were custom fitted, and I have had no problems with them..
post #9 of 12
Thread Starter 
Originally Posted by mntlion View Post
you can make boots softer later, but not stiffer.

buy the 9's
How do you make a boot softer? (Just out of curiosity)
post #10 of 12
on the impact 10's just remove the extra rivets on the back

also making "V" notches on the sides, or back of the boot.

lower the inside boot part of the shell in the front,

lower the outside cuff in the front of the boot

power strap inside the shell

lots of options, most are not revisable so make sure you want to have this done.

also not great for a DIY job. see someone who has done this first.
post #11 of 12

 Found this in search and have related query. Have just about completed my boot fitting/shopping. Seems like my feet like the Solly Impact series. The top Seattle area shop has the 9 and the Pro but not the 10. As mntlion says could always dial down the stiffness but cannot add. By the way mnlion , you, Lou, Sierrajim and some others have added a lot to my gear education so thanks for all the comments.

Have always used AT boots and these are my first true downhill boots so not sure what stiffness I should get. Will be using my Gotamas to search all over for soft snow. Will do some hiking for fresh lines.  Me: 6'3" 195lb athletic, type 2 skier, part time instructor.

Second choice was Technica Dragon or Agent 95/100 or 110 but seem just a bit too comfy. Will get custom footbeds as my orthotics are too wide to fit. Have had two neuroma surgeries. Thinking should get footbeds before final boot choice. Outside ankle bone on one foot pressured a bit so may need a bit of punchout. Opinions solicited and appreciated.

And should the moderator move this to boot forum?

Edited by WaNick - 3/17/2009 at 05:58 pm
post #12 of 12

get the inpact pro, and make them softer if you need to.  (just remove the extra set of rear rivets and try the softer flex)   the pro also has a nicer liner.




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