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Advice on first timer buying twin tips

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
This will be my first time buying some twin tip skis. I was recently at peek n peek and decided to rent a pair of their elan 160cm twin tips (they had smaller or larger. The guy of course said the longer ones would give me more speed so i went for those)

I was fairly impressed. They did well on the frozen granular which i liked a lot. I am fairly new to jumping and the park so i took my time getting used to jumping again. It was my first day out this season after all. Tried some spins just to get used to them, fell a bit but practice makes perfect when i get my pair i guess.

I've mainly had a medley of skis before. I'm 14 and i usually have to get skis fairly often because they became too small. The pair i currently have are Bandits. They're pretty small 140cm i think, going back on those made me decide against getting smaller twin tips.

I like to be able to ski the mountain with my family well. I am a fairly advanced skier, the trails at the peek have no problem for me and at most places they have no problem (haven't been too many places lately though). I ski all the trails usually. They had you put into types at the peek and my dad put me down for type 2 because of the bindings (did not want them to not release easily) However i want to be able to jump more and hopefully when i am better do some tricks hence why i was so interested in twin tip skis.

I ski partially parallel but do more edging usually (skiing i make S's for turns at first but when i want speed i make much smaller S's) Not sure if that makes a difference or not but figured I'd say something.

Now I'm looking for a quality pair of twin tip skis. They don't need to be too much money (my parents would freak but i could put some money into them if i like them enough i suppose) I was thinking All-mountain would be best for me since i do like to ski all mountain. I'd like for them to be fast if possible and definitly do good on groomers, hopefully do well on most conditions but if not then just say which they don't do well on. Doing well on groomers/hard pack would need to be a priority hopefully since i like those conditions.

We mainly ski east-coast. I've skied at Cockaigne, Holiday Valley, Seven Springs, Hidden valley but mainly frequent peek n peek. I learned to ski in Utah and have been to Mount tremblant once (god i'd love to go again but it was paid for by my father's work) He demo'd his Bandit X's there and bought those.

Onto specs about me i guess. Like i said I'm 14, 5'9. More of a lean build because i play soccer. Man(boy w/e you wanna say lol) I'm 135lbs.

I looked into the Public Enemy skis and the 08 K2 Hell bent but saw those did not do well on groomers so wasn't very interested.

Any other questions that would help feel free to ask and i'll answer to the best of my ability (or try)

Thanks
post #2 of 12
You sound like you are off to a good start. I would look at twins in the 80-87 mm under foot range, between 155 and 165 cm depending on you ability and comfort level, you can grow into the lenght a little, I stress a little, don't go to big. You should consider the K2 PE's/Extremes try a 159 and 164 if you can. Dynastar Trouble JR., Line Chronics, Volkl Wall, etc. There are many good choices out there. Look for last year's models since they are cheeper.
post #3 of 12
the k2 hellbent are fat skis. they are not something you want to be in a park with. those more for backcountry hucks and jumps. I think they would be to wide.
post #4 of 12
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Originally Posted by jlong1974 View Post
You sound like you are off to a good start. I would look at twins in the 80-87 mm under foot range, between 155 and 165 cm depending on you ability and comfort level, you can grow into the lenght a little, I stress a little, don't go to big. You should consider the K2 PE's/Extremes try a 159 and 164 if you can. Dynastar Trouble JR., Line Chronics, Volkl Wall, etc. There are many good choices out there. Look for last year's models since they are cheeper.
Gotta disagree with this guy. i bought my skis 172, some people were telling me to go higher, and im your height but heavier. so i would go like 168 and around there if your a good skier, like you can ski anything anytime. also, the trouble jr are kids skis... why would you ski kid skis?

im 16, 5'9 170, and i just picked up a pair of Fischer addicts for a sick price. i also grew up in more of a racing style, then this summer went to new zealand and rented twins the whole time, fell in love, and had to get a pair. so i looked around, i was going to get the Dynastar trouble makers, but then i found out that the fischer addicts were like twice the ski, so much better for all mountain and park and all, and the price i got on them was unbeatable.

i will be skiing them for the first time this week, but right now they look amazing and im dying to get on them. i talked to a lot of people that have skied them, and they say they hold up great on our east coast crud, and do well all over. look into them.

otherwise, i have skied the k2 extremes, they were fun, but i used them for one day on a pow day in NZ. the volkl bridges are fatter skis, donno your preference.

any more questions or suggestions you want, let me know. i find some sick deals so ask about that too. check o2gearshop.com for sure for cheap skis, thats where i got mine (except i got a special deal because i had some problems)
post #5 of 12
I'm about 5'8, 5'9 and weigh right around 130-135 as well. I've been skiing 171 twins lately, mounted just a bit ahead of standard. I wouldn't recommend shorter at this point because of the stability you'll get with longer skis, and if you're this tall at 14 you're probably growing a bit more. I wouldn't go with anything shorter than 165, but that's personal preference.
post #6 of 12
Thread Starter 
Right now after hearing about those Fischer addicts, I'm choosing between the K2 PE's and the Fischer addicts.

Found the addicts for $200 and a 08 pair of PE's for $250. Parents may still freak since we still would need to get bindings but maybe some more money could help that.

I'm leaning towards the PE's since they seem to be a pretty fun ski and is a good carver. But so are the addicts... Dunno maybe someplace in Ohio has a demo day sometime. *sighs*

Looking at the 160cm range. That was what i tried in the Elan's at least.

Thanks for the info and site btw.
post #7 of 12
heres my next question to help you choose.

do you ride park or backwards? if you do, the addicts will be better. TECHNICALLY their a park ski... symetrical for skiing backwards and supported underfoot for hitting rails. but the angle of these sidewalls will give you great support when your carving down. also, these things look soooo cool. its matte brown top sheet with the green and white stuff on it, its not shinny. there is a spot on the top where you can see through to the wood core. the base is lime green and you can also see through to the wood core, and you can see the supported base and tips. ITS AWESOME!

the PE is a lot more common, i've seen them being rented out at mountains, they're all over the internet, and lots of people have them. they tip is 4 mm wider then Addicts, and their tail is 5 mm skinnier. and under foot is 1mm wider than the addicts. i have skied the K2 extremes, they are the exact same dimensions if you go look. 118/85/109. i also skied the salomon thruster the same week and those were more park skis, much lighter, really fun and skied all mountain with them really. the extremes i used on a pow day, and when i ventured out of the pow and into groomers and park, the weight was a real difference in the park, much harder, and just felt like a lot more ski under me, but like extra ski

go measure out a millimeter... 1 inch is 2.5 cm, 1cm is 10 mm... see what im saying? its so small. but the difference between a symetrical ski and a asymetrical ski is really big when riding backwards and distributing weight evenly through the ski for spinning and what not. im going to forward you a message that this guy sent me about his experience on the addicts, you'll see that even though their park, they work great everything

ask me any more questions, i may be more bias towards the addicts, but i think im right.
post #8 of 12
Thread Starter 
Well I'd like to get more into park but probably more just normal jumping and the rest of the mountain. I'm terrible at backwards skiing (i think it will be a acquired taste hopefully)

My mom's absolutely terrified of me doing jumps/spins. She just doesn't understand. I keep telling her it'll be a long time before I'm ready but she still has a hard time believing me.

Now i really don't know which to get. I need a demo day haha.
post #9 of 12
yeah, never touched the park before this summer, i tought myself to hit rails and boxes, and started to hit kickers and what not, no spinning but eventually was able to grab. im getting into it, im no where near good, and i definitely cant ski well backwards (i mean i can ski backwards, just cant like turn and what not) but i know i will get more into it as i go along.
post #10 of 12
JUST FOUND THIS!!! CHECK IT OUT, AMAZING REVIEWS!

http://www.newschoolers.com/web/cont...roduct/id/205/
post #11 of 12
Anyone ridden a Volkl Bridge or Salomon's Dumont? I'm looking for an all mountain twin-tip and these models were both recommended. Thanks....
post #12 of 12
It sounds Like your parents will not freak out considering they had to buy you a pair of skis every season since you were a kid.

Don't buy Twin-Tip Skis yet. You will grow out of them just like your other pairs, and then you are out another $250. I am 16, have been renting all my life and am demoing this year. Don't rush to get skis just because you may look cool going down the mountain with new gear at 14-15.

Get used to the park with demo skis/rental skis, see what you like/ most comfortable/ more fun. When I was 14 I thought I was definitely going to buy twin tips, b/c I liked going on rails/jumps, but it gets old after a while.

If you ski groomed/off piste/ park, go for the PE's. They're the most versatile ski and would be perfect at your age to use- and with their price it won't be a hassle on your parents ( get a job this summer!).

I believe in your position, you're at the age where you have the options of choosing what you like/ what you want to do for many years to come. Just don't get caught thinking that you HAVE to buy twin-tips.

PS: I just did a demo of the Völkl Tigersharks and they are nice!

Greg
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