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Anyone else hate interactive trail maps

post #1 of 18
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They are smaller and dont increase in size when i adjust the size of my browser. They offer useless information. I want to see all the runs and all the lifts at once so i have to click a million things just to get it right. Just give me a hi rez pdf file please.
post #2 of 18
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post #3 of 18
The interface on many of them differs, so a bit of trial-and-error is involved.

Once I'm familiar with how they zoom, I like the ability to get-up close.
post #4 of 18
I found Belleayre's one worse than most.
post #5 of 18
It seems like a lot of mountains are offering both the interactive as well as a JPG or PDF.

As others mentioned... I think the interactive maps could be very cool, if only they resized. I've never done any Flash development, but I was under the impression resizing Flash applications was pretty straight forward...

I should add.... I do find them more useful early season for getting a better idea of how much terrain is open. Instead of looking at the list of open trails and then trying to find them on a static map, you can just hit the "Open Trails" button on the interactive and by some sort of trail-map-magic... there you go.
post #6 of 18
Though not necessarily current (nor winter shots), check out ski areas using GoogleMap and the flyover capability.

If you have trouble using your browser for zooming, you can often save the file to disk and use a different application.

Telluride's is
pretty nice.
post #7 of 18
The ones that tell you what's open are very useful (not all do).
post #8 of 18
I actually like them, especially the ones that have the panoramic pictures and video from different points on the mountain.

Although, I do feel like the site should have just a big .pdf with the trail map on it, too.
post #9 of 18
They are a perfect example of technology taking us backwards!!!! If we had them first, someone would remark how much better just a PDF is. Also, I don't like the one that show up as a jpg or something that you can't easily enlarge(except maybe with a Mozilla Ctr +).
post #10 of 18
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Originally Posted by mts261 View Post
It seems like a lot of mountains are offering both the interactive as well as a JPG or PDF.
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I should add.... I do find them more useful early season for getting a better idea of how much terrain is open. Instead of looking at the list of open trails and then trying to find them on a static map, you can just hit the "Open Trails" button on the interactive and by some sort of trail-map-magic... there you go.
I agree. The combo of large, high-res PDF for general study, and a Flash interactive map to show current status (open/closed, groomed/not, snowmaking, etc) is a great approach.

I also hate when the snow report and list of open trails is on an entirely different page from the trail map. Unless you know the area by heart, it's hard to have to keep flipping back and forth to track down what's open and what's not...


aaron
post #11 of 18
Yes! I hate interactive maps-Just give me the PDF (or the Hi-res JPEG even) JAMES NIEHUES map, I'll figure out the rest.

Side note-how great is James Niehues? I can't stand any other ski area mapper-his are the easiest (and best looking) to actually self-guide by! This guy deserves a special shout out from skiers everywhere. Huzzah, James Niehues and your ski maps!

Liam
post #12 of 18
Did some poking around on the Jim Niehues website and found, somewhat amusingly, an interactive map from him:

http://www.jamesniehues.com/applications.htm
post #13 of 18
I never really find trail maps nor trail names particularly useful. If they just had a arrow pointing to lifts that would be something.
post #14 of 18
nope
post #15 of 18
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As others mentioned... I think the interactive maps could be very cool, if only they resized. I've never done any Flash development, but I was under the impression resizing Flash applications was pretty straight forward...
Yes and no. Scaling vector-based images up and down in size? Trivial. But note that generally a map application like this is using fixed-size JPGs or whatever, not actually 'drawing' the map inside the program. You can still do it by, say, using multiple maps at different sizes, or doing image scaling, but it's not quite as simple.

Dealing with a dynamically changing viewport/window size? AMAZINGLY difficult because of the way Flash is set up.

A well-designed interactive map should be unilaterally better than just a big image file -- at worst, it should let you turn off any overlays and look at the map just like you have a big zoomable image file.

Many, however, are not.
post #16 of 18
I hate most of the flash maps. Once and a while I find one that is actually useful and well done.
post #17 of 18
I love trail maps. Niehues is one of my favorite artists.
post #18 of 18
Pretty much what the others have said. Occasionally, they have useful interfaces and information. But normally, I'd rather just have a pdf. Even with the best interactive maps, they still need a pdf option or a really big jpg at least.
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