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What skis should I demo

post #1 of 11
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Now that I have my boot issues sorted out, it's probably time to look at replacing my 7-year-old Rossignol Cut Pro 10.5 170s.
Prior to last year I had used them twice since buying them in 2001 with the intention of taking up skiing. Last year I got out close to 20 times and most of my buddies now consider me to be a decent intermediate.
I'm 50 years old, 5'11", 200 lbs, fairly muscular and pretty fit. Really only interested in skiing groomers with my wife and friends at medium speeds, although I do occassionally like to do some jumps etc. in the sno park. I can occasionally pic up the pace if I want to keep my faster skiing friends in sight. 90% of my time though is just spent carving down blue and single black diamond runs and just enjoying the day. I broke enough bones racing motorcycles for 20 years so I'd like to keep my skiing recreational and wax-side-down only LOL!
BTW, I ski in West Quebec, mostly the Laurentian mountains like Tremblant, Mont Blanc, Saint-Sauveur and the like, so it is mostly hard pack groomers and can get quite icy on some of the busier hills (Sauveur can be like a moguled skating rink on a Saturday afternoon). The Rossis, while a bit flexy to grip really well on ice, do have a 105-65-95 sidecut and are pretty easy to carve on the grooomers for me.
Stores have recommended everything from RaceTigers to Rossie Z9s. Of the skis owned by my friends, I particularly like one pal's Dynastar Contact Limiteds. He carves like a demon on them and I have read nothing but good reviews about the Contacts in most conditions. I also was taking a look at Volkl AC3s, TigerTwenty and most recently Volkl 5 stars.
Pretty much though I am open to anything that will add to my skiing enjoyment. Given the above info which skis do you think I should demo first?
post #2 of 11
Try the Head Supershape Magnums if you can get your hands on them. I just took 'em for a spin this weekend and was VERY impressed!
post #3 of 11
basically every company will make a ski that does what you want.
The big difference will be the tune on it when you demo them, and dealing with a store that you like (every store will have 3+ brands, each brand will have a model or more that will be close and buy what you like best)
post #4 of 11
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Originally Posted by DoWork View Post
Try the Head Supershape Magnums if you can get your hands on them. I just took 'em for a spin this weekend and was VERY impressed!
I will have to check out some of the Head skis. Heads and Atomics I have not really looked at, although they get great reviews. Mostly have checked out Rossis (brand loyalty LOL!) Dynastars and Volkls.
post #5 of 11
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Originally Posted by mntlion View Post
basically every company will make a ski that does what you want.
The big difference will be the tune on it when you demo them, and dealing with a store that you like (every store will have 3+ brands, each brand will have a model or more that will be close and buy what you like best)
Some good advice... thanks. It is appreciated.
I do know that every company offers skis that will do what I want. What I'd like to know from BB members is which of those do they think fits my profile the best.
Should I go with an advanced to expert ski and work myself up to it? Or should I go with something more geared for the intermediate to advanced skier?
Plus budget is an issue. Do I need a $1000 ski? Are there less expensive skis which will do the job for me? Would I just be wasting my money on a $300 set of skis and end up purchasing the $1000 set I should have purchased in the first place.
Would a AC3 Motion be the best for me of the Volkl series (the folks who did my boots are Volkl dealers)? It's an all mountain ski, has great reviews, and a reasonable sidecut for groomers. But it is an intermediate to advanced ski and I keep reading that all mountain skis are a compromise. Should I spend more? Would a 5 star be better for me? Or a pure RaceTiger for the groomers I ski?
I don't want to get too much ski or too little. Right now there is an incredible deal locally on AC3 Motions ($349 CDN with bindings) but I don't want to get an all mountain ski and find out later I should have purchased something more specific to groomers (Allstars, Tiger20s or race skis).
I'm want to be happy enough with the next skis I purchase to keep them for 5 years or more, rather than finding out I did not buy enough ski (or worst case scenario... spend a fortune on too much ski).
Really for a semi new skier the vast choices, manufacturers, prices and styles of skis is quite overwhelming.
post #6 of 11
As you suggest, bargain skis that don't do the job for you are no bargain.

I feel that a US$20 subscription to http://www.realskiers.com/ is money very well spent. Peter Keelty has the best ski reviews I've seen. The reviews in "Ski Canada" magazine aren't as good as they used to be, better than in the U.S. mags, and no where near as helpful as Peter's.

Among the Head line, the iSuperShape and the iXRC would be my recommendations. For mainly groomers, I'd choose the original iSuperShape, not the Magnum...the Magnum is great but better in some softer snow and not as great on hard stuff. In the iXRC line, just about anything above the 600 will do great; the 600 is a super intermediate ski, though. The iXRC line has had several model number changes over the recent years, and all are excellent. For real smooth skiing, get the chip SuperShape or previous year's chip iXRC.
http://www.head.com/ski/ski.php?region=us

Fischer also has some excellent skis to consider...especially their RX or Progressor lines. There are other brands well worth consideration and demo testing, also.

I'd pick a ski that is no more than 72mm under foot, and mid 60s would be more my choice, with a sidecut radius less than 14 meter, and closer to 12 m. I'd avoid anything labeled "all mountain" for the conditions you describe. You want a hardpack cruiser.

Do check Peter's reviews, do demo, and look for bargains and dicker hard on the price, especially this year with slow sales.
post #7 of 11
Add the Tigershark 10ft or a Tigershark 8ft in a 175 to your demo list.
post #8 of 11
What soft snow said, except I would recommend a radius between 13 and 16.
post #9 of 11
Thread Starter 
That is fabulous information and advice SSG. Much appreciated. I will check out realskiers. Thanks Rise and Ghost for your recommendations as well. I am writing it all down to take to the demo days.
If anyone else has any other recommendations please keep them coming.
post #10 of 11
Thread Starter 
Well, a great deal came and I could not wait. Picked up a set of Volkl Supersport 4 Stars in mint condition with Marker bindings for $125 CDN. 168s. These should definitely tide me over for a while and give me a baseline against which to evaluate the demos I try.
post #11 of 11
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Originally Posted by SoftSnowGuy View Post
As you suggest, bargain skis that don't do the job for you are no bargain.

I feel that a US$20 subscription to http://www.realskiers.com/ is money very well spent. Peter Keelty has the best ski reviews I've seen. The reviews in "Ski Canada" magazine aren't as good as they used to be, better than in the U.S. mags, and no where near as helpful as Peter's.

Among the Head line, the iSuperShape and the iXRC would be my recommendations. For mainly groomers, I'd choose the original iSuperShape, not the Magnum...the Magnum is great but better in some softer snow and not as great on hard stuff. In the iXRC line, just about anything above the 600 will do great; the 600 is a super intermediate ski, though. The iXRC line has had several model number changes over the recent years, and all are excellent. For real smooth skiing, get the chip SuperShape or previous year's chip iXRC.
http://www.head.com/ski/ski.php?region=us

Fischer also has some excellent skis to consider...especially their RX or Progressor lines. There are other brands well worth consideration and demo testing, also.

I'd pick a ski that is no more than 72mm under foot, and mid 60s would be more my choice, with a sidecut radius less than 14 meter, and closer to 12 m. I'd avoid anything labeled "all mountain" for the conditions you describe. You want a hardpack cruiser.

Do check Peter's reviews, do demo, and look for bargains and dicker hard on the price, especially this year with slow sales.
Thanks for the link to realskiers.com. I did sign up for a membership and have greatly enjoyed the reviews. As mentioned above, I found a great deal on some Volkl Supersport 4 stars and I grabbed them. I wanted to demo some skis before buying but these came up and I just could not wait to upgrade from my Rossies.
BTW, realskiers was the first site I've ever seen that actually had a review of my old Rossie Cut 10.5s. 2001 was a long time ago but they had some nice things to say about them:

"Powerful carver in the original super side cut mold. Strong skiers"
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