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n00b tuning 101: advice (?)

post #1 of 13
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so i want to start tuning my own skis and first thing i need to settle on is equipment. thankfully christmas is coming up so i'd like to make a list of what i need to effectively tune skis to universal conditions.

what i have: picked up the swix alpine tune kit with 1 Non-chrome 4mm file, 1 two-angle file guide, & 2 vices on tramdock.

now i was looking at the dakine super tune kit that comes with the adjustable temperature tuning Iron Edge, Tuning Pool 10" 25[cm], Wire File Cleaning Brush, Metal Scraper 10" [25cm] Wax Scraper Pocket Stone P-Tex [2] Octane Bar (All Temp Wax) and Scotchbrite Pad Tuning Tips. for $75 is it worth it or should i buy a select few individual pieces instead?

any advice on the essentials?
post #2 of 13
If I had to start from scratch this would be what I get:

*Waxing iron (not mom's old laundry iron - sorry, momma, I known I shouldn'ta done that)
* Vices (and not just alcoholism and excessive gambling habits)
* 500g. of cheap universal or soft wax (for hotscraping and base prep)
* 250g. of better wax (this would depend on where you live and what the conditions usually like)
* A good, thick plastic scraper
* Drywall sanding screen (for to sharpen your plastic scraper - this may sound silly, but for $1.99 you can enjoy a sharp scraper all season long, and I can't tell you how friggin' nice that is)
* A hard bastard file (for setting your edges)
* Side edge guide at 88 or 87 degrees
* A rough-grit (220) Moonflex diamond stone (for cutting and maintaining your edges)
* A fine-grit diamondstone (for polishing your edges and keeping them smooth and rust-free)
* File clamp (for to clamp your file with)
* Lots of fat rubber bands (for break retention and snapping at younger brothers)

I think that would cover it...

Have a great time tuning!
post #3 of 13

PS

That second tuning kit doesn't seem like it has what you really need. I wouldn't buy it.

Also, in the above post I forgot to mention base repair materials. Personally (and I know you've already shelled out a lot of $ getting all this stuff), I'd get a cheap soldering iron and some base repair ribbon - total, about $25 more than P-Tex. But, So Much Easier and So Much Better!
post #4 of 13
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thx for the advice~
post #5 of 13
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Originally Posted by asianguy63 View Post
so i want to start tuning my own skis and first thing i need to settle on is equipment. thankfully christmas is coming up so i'd like to make a list of what i need to effectively tune skis to universal conditions.

what i have: picked up the swix alpine tune kit with 1 Non-chrome 4mm file, 1 two-angle file guide, & 2 vices on tramdock.

now i was looking at the dakine super tune kit that comes with the adjustable temperature tuning Iron Edge, Tuning Pool 10" 25[cm], Wire File Cleaning Brush, Metal Scraper 10" [25cm] Wax Scraper Pocket Stone P-Tex [2] Octane Bar (All Temp Wax) and Scotchbrite Pad Tuning Tips. for $75 is it worth it or should i buy a select few individual pieces instead?

any advice on the essentials?
Add up the same items in my store and the total will be under $75, add something to make it over $75 and I ship it free.
post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by asianguy63 View Post
now i was looking at the dakine super tune kit that comes with the adjustable temperature tuning Iron Edge, Tuning Pool 10" 25[cm], Wire File Cleaning Brush, Metal Scraper 10" [25cm] Wax Scraper Pocket Stone P-Tex [2] Octane Bar (All Temp Wax) and Scotchbrite Pad Tuning Tips. for $75 is it worth it or should i buy a select few individual pieces instead?

any advice on the essentials?
This list is missing a nylon brush.
post #7 of 13
I'd just get the iron, vise, universal wax, 6" or 8" hard chrome ski edge file, medium grit stone, side edge guide at 3° (87°) ('cuz that's what I like), carpenter's spring clamp to hold the file on the guide, rubber bands from broccoli or asparagus.

I'm not waxing for top performance. I melt the universal wax in, then re-melt and wipe the excess off with a paper towel. That works for me. After the first 20' that morning, I can't feel any difference in how the ski runs vs. scraping and brushing. If it makes a difference you, do the whole 9 yards.
post #8 of 13
Starting out with chrome files isn't necessary as long as you do a good job prepping the edges with your stone. Personally I get the 12" mill bastard files from home depot or the hardware store and snap them in half. You can't beat the price, $12 or so, and chances are when you're learning at first you won't prep the edges correctly ne ways. So you'll wind up buying a nice chrome file only to have to throw all that money out next season. Invest in good guides, a quality iron and some solid vices first, then get yourself a decent stone and file. Next year spring for the stone set and chrome files if you still decide you want them. Based on what I've seen, I'd go to racewax.com for your equipment. They have some of the best prices around not to mention great selection and customer service.
post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by SoftSnowGuy View Post
I'd just get the iron, vise, universal wax, 6" or 8" hard chrome ski edge file, medium grit stone, side edge guide at 3° (87°) ('cuz that's what I like), carpenter's spring clamp to hold the file on the guide, rubber bands from broccoli or asparagus.

I'm not waxing for top performance. I melt the universal wax in, then re-melt and wipe the excess off with a paper towel. That works for me. After the first 20' that morning, I can't feel any difference in how the ski runs vs. scraping and brushing. If it makes a difference you, do the whole 9 yards.

Are there other people out there that aggree with SSG? I'm looking at tuning my own ski's this year, I'm a bit of a ski bum, I work at a resort and ski 3-4 days a week. I'm wanting to keep my ski's in decent shape for the least amount of money possible. I'm thinking of getting something basic from racewax.com. I'm starting to think that I'll wax my ski's once a week and have the edges done by a shop once a month. With a clothes Iron and some basic wax I could do that really cheap. I could save even more money if I don't buy a scraper and a brush. Although it's only saving $20 to skip those. Also If I just want to knock the burrs off of my edges between shop tunes, should I get a diamond stone? if so what grit? or is there something that would be better for keeping in my pocket for quick love to my edges?
post #10 of 13
At the very least I'd buy a base line iron and a scraper. You can get away without a brush but the scraper is necessary. Clothes irons tend to fluctuate in temperature too much, you run a serious risk of damaging your bases.
post #11 of 13
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Originally Posted by TexasSkier View Post
Are there other people out there that aggree with SSG? I'm looking at tuning my own ski's this year, I'm a bit of a ski bum, I work at a resort and ski 3-4 days a week. I'm wanting to keep my ski's in decent shape for the least amount of money possible. I'm thinking of getting something basic from racewax.com. I'm starting to think that I'll wax my ski's once a week and have the edges done by a shop once a month. With a clothes Iron and some basic wax I could do that really cheap. I could save even more money if I don't buy a scraper and a brush. Although it's only saving $20 to skip those. Also If I just want to knock the burrs off of my edges between shop tunes, should I get a diamond stone? if so what grit? or is there something that would be better for keeping in my pocket for quick love to my edges?

I sell a pocket stone for that purpose that is cheaper ($3.99) and longer lasting than the diamond stone.
http://www.racewax.com/category/tool...umis___stones/
post #12 of 13
Is it really that easy to burn your skis with a clothing iron?
post #13 of 13
I just scanned and won't comment on tools but can say you might be missing a pair of skis ... just a thought: Check the dumpster at your local ski shop, or a $5 piece of crap from Craigslist. When I started tuning I would try each tool on an old pair of rock skis to get the feel for it before touching them to my good gear.

Go with Dr. D's kit and check out the tuning tips on racewax.com, it's very helpful and clear info and he is a good guy to deal with. If he shipped any faster I'd get stuff before I ordered it.
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