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Custom footbed question

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
Hi,

Are there any custom footbeds that can be bought online and "molded" or "fit" at home or do you have to go to a shop and have them done?

I saw a pair of Masterfit Zapz online that are heated in the microwave and it at home.

I have some sloppy toebox and heel cup issues. I'm hoping that something like this is available. I'd like to try a reasonable option first to see if there's any benefit at all.

Thanks for your help!

Dave
post #2 of 13

yes and no

Well, the fact of the matter is that these microwaveable inserts are better than stock. However, they tend to accomodate any instability with minimal support as opposed to a real molded custom as done by a master boot fitter or C.Ped.

IMHO, save up your pennies and get a true custom footbed molded by a master. Also, the master bootfitter can determine if there are other issues with the boot over and above the sloppy toebox. For one, he/she can check proper shell fit, a general alignment and a myriad of other issues that can be trouble shot.

The time and money are ultimately worth it.

BenG
post #3 of 13
^^^^ + 1 maybe a self mould footbed will help, maybe not, have the fit assessed and save for a custom footbed, it may be that the fitter says try this off the peg insert and a volume reducer shim

good luck
post #4 of 13
Thread Starter 
I know going for the custom footbed would be the best route, but I'm just a cheap ass. I will try 3 or 4 different cheap routes first and then end up buying the right thing in the end. In essence, I spend twice the money I would have spent if I just did it right the first time. But I've got 40 years of being stupid behind me. I'm not changing now....

I just thought there might be a cheaper alternative that people have had good luck with in the past. I'd feel like a real dolt if I bought the expensive custom bed and everyone was using Shock Doctors or Dr. Scholls from Wally World!

Thanks for the info everyone.
post #5 of 13
So may I politely ask as we've been roundly criticized lately for our condescending attitude what kind dolt do you feel like when you spend twice as much as everyone else, waste your time chasing non-working solutions then end up where you were advised to go to begin with?

With deepest heartfelt sincerity and concern for your feelings

Lou
post #6 of 13
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Lou Rosenfeld View Post
So may I politely ask as we've been roundly criticized lately for our condescending attitude what kind dolt do you feel like when you spend twice as much as everyone else, waste your time chasing non-working solutions then end up where you were advised to go to begin with?

With deepest heartfelt sincerity and concern for your feelings

Lou
Well stated! And I commend you on the very kind words you used to cover up your sarcasm and completely worthless response with not a single shred of worthwhile content value whatsoever.

There are many personal experiences out there that may lead me in a different direction from "where I was advised to go to begin with".. What makes you believe that your advice is the correct advice? Is it even slightly possible that someone could have had a different experience that is contrary to your advice?

In fact, as I re-read the messages on this post, you didn't offer any advice at all. Just some well worded sarcasm... Are you working on your post count or do you have something constructive to offer?
post #7 of 13
Dave,

Come on, seriously... what do you expect us to say if you're considering buying a Barbie Easybake Oven footbed?

This type of product will certainly take a 'custom' imprint, but the process is fraught with potential for error in terms of capturing the foot in a poor position/alignment. You could end up making yourself worse off and out a few bucks.

If - as you stated - you're a cheap ass, why not just buy a $35 Superfeet trim to fit (no affiliation) and be done with it? At least you'll be guaranteed to get something decent and not waste your money. I must admit, I did laugh when you confessed to a flat learning curve re. your spending history.

Lastly, if you have a sloppy toebox and heel, I suspect the underlying problem is that your shell is oversized.

Remember - for what it's worth, our advice is free . Now where's that link for the DIY vasectomy kit....?
post #8 of 13
Thread Starter 
I know, I was a bit cranky when I wrote that.... sorry...

We're in the middle of a winter storm here and the mountain I patrol at shut down. Can you imagine that? I can see the headlines now.. "The mountain is closed due to too much snow...."

I know that getting a proper boot fitting is one way to make sure I get a proper fit. But, I can't believe that there aren't other alternatives (like Superfeet) that people have used and have had good luck with.

I know there are cork footbeds, heel lifts, toe lifts, special liners, etc. I just don't know which is right for me. Plus, I like to experiment a bit too.
post #9 of 13
Since I suspect you're oversized, in addition to the trim-to-fits, also consider getting a Bontex shim - or two - and stack them on your bootboard (under the liner). This will take up some volume and bring you up into the radius of the boot, both resulting in a snugger fit. The good news? The shims are about $0.25 ea.
post #10 of 13
Dave:
WTF although Matt already answered for me. I wasn't trying to advise, simply remind you of what you had already replied. Remember you had already stated your modus oporendi (sp?) is to cheap out until you are forced to go more expensive and as a result spend double what you would have. I think "dolt" was your word.
post #11 of 13
Here try this site. http://www.moszkito.com/rigid.htm I ski their rigid footbed (not rigid in the forefoot) and find it works very well for me. It is a good alternative for those who don't have access or the money for a custom footbed. They come in 73 sizes and they have a kit for measuring your arch and heel. I think they are about $50.00.

To get anything better you would have to visit one of the fitters that have already responded here or someone like Brent Amsbury in Park City and spend more money. Personally I have yet to get a custom footbed made for me that exceeds these on the hill for comfort and performance. Now, not everyone may have my success with the moszkitos though, so your mileage may vary. It is a good cost effective alternative for you to consider. Good luck.
post #12 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks Ric, that's just the kind of advice I was looking for here. I'll look into those. Much appreciated.
post #13 of 13
Please consider feet are like finger prints, no two are alike, so while brand X or method Y may work for your buddy, it does not mean it will work for you. Trim to fits are fine for average feet, but most people do not have average feet. For example, if you happen to have forefoot varus issues, a trim to fit will not solve this problem.

As Jdistefa elluded to, your loose toe box and heel will probably not be solved by any kind of footbed.

good luck with the shotgun approach. Maybe as a pro, you can have an expert fitter at least evaluate your feet for free before you drop another $50 on a footbed that may or may not work? You might as well put $50 on black at the roulette wheel and hope for the best!

In fact, my shop is in a Hotel/Casino, I would be happy to bet your $50 dollars for you and let you know if you won or not!
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