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The New Whistler Gondola

post #1 of 29
Thread Starter 
Peak to Peak opens this Friday

Any of our Canadian friends going to the opening ceremony?
post #2 of 29
I'm not Canadian, but I live just across the border and I'll be there on Friday trying to stay as far away from the hoopla as possible. It's my first day this season and I want to SKI.
post #3 of 29
Thread Starter 
Actually, I don't blame you one single bit! Was just curious if it was just me!
post #4 of 29
I'll be there too, (I was a Canadian, but changed that about 20 years ago), and will also avoid the ceremonies like the plague.

I have a buddy who's a Mountain Host who's gotten roped into something to do with it, so maybe I'll mosey by, but I predict this thing will be a HUGE white elephant - $52M for a lift that goes side-to-side??? Dumbness personified.
post #5 of 29
52 Million??

OMFG!!!
post #6 of 29
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Originally Posted by Sugaree View Post
52 Million??

OMFG!!!

Hey it's Canadian...
post #7 of 29
I think it will be very successfull. an easy way to get from blackcomb to whistler mountain and vice versa very quickly.
post #8 of 29
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Originally Posted by 51Phantom View Post
I think it will be very successfull. an easy way to get from blackcomb to whistler mountain and vice versa very quickly.
Which you'll want to do because?

In all my times there I've just decided in the morning where I wanted to go and done it. If 4,000 acres each isn't enough to keep you busy, well....
post #9 of 29
As 51Phantom said, at least you can easily get between the two mountains. When I was last there (and this lift was just an idea), I found you stuck to either Whistler or Blackcomb simply because it was a hassle to go all the way to the bottom and then travel up a lift to get to the other side.

@snofun3 - I understand your point regarding acreage but at least you'd have a easy option (assuming the queue isn't a ridiculous length and I expect it will) if the conditions on one side were more favourable the the other.
post #10 of 29
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Originally Posted by Blaise View Post
assuming the queue isn't a ridiculous length and I expect it will
Why would there be a queue for a "lift" that gains no elevation? I'm trying to figure out why anybody would ride it at all, other than the novelty factor or non-skiers looking for a mountain tramway.
post #11 of 29
I think the main benefit is on switching mountains on days where the alpine is closed. That happened to me three times on my last trip there. It was raining at the bottom and the top was closed, so you could only ski the middle-third. We would ski Whistler in the morning and then head over to Blackcomb for the afternoon. Being able to do that in 10 minutes without getting wet would be great, instead of skiing down into the rain and then going back up again in the gondola.
post #12 of 29
as a local up there - I know there aren't too many thrilled with it. The biggest reason being is that the village gave Intrawest a BIG tax break to put that up. As all trying to pay our property taxes..and then you got the mountain making $$$$ - why do they need a tax discount. And, is this lift really going to change someones mind? I don't know of someone who has said, yeah, we turned down Vail to come to Whistler cause of this gondola....
post #13 of 29
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Originally Posted by Cuttin' Edge View Post
as a local up there - I know there aren't too many thrilled with it. The biggest reason being is that the village gave Intrawest a BIG tax break to put that up. As all trying to pay our property taxes..and then you got the mountain making $$$$ - why do they need a tax discount. And, is this lift really going to change someones mind? I don't know of someone who has said, yeah, we turned down Vail to come to Whistler cause of this gondola....
Therefore it is negative in NO way... and only a positive outcome. Yes, they could've spent it on better but it's still a positive outcome.
post #14 of 29
Read that it's highest point is more than 1400 above the ground. Too high for me.
post #15 of 29
I say,

post #16 of 29
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Originally Posted by bojowilly View Post
Read that it's highest point is more than 1400 above the ground. Too high for me.

Don't look down, man
post #17 of 29
Just imagine what $52m could have done for new terrain vs. another way to get to the old terrain. Go figure.

Just got in, and the cover certainly looks thin from ground level. Hmmm, which skis for tomorrow.

Anyone want to meet at 9 at the base tomorrow to watch the clusterfunk with the opening?
post #18 of 29
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Anyone want to meet at 9 at the base tomorrow to watch the clusterfunk with the opening?
I'm 3000 miles to the east.

Enjoy the day.
post #19 of 29
While I live and ski in Colorado, I vacation every few years in W/B. W/B is my preferred ski destination. As an outsider, I'm looking forward to riding the gondola this April when I'm there. The idea of hitting 7th Heaven and the Harmony/Symphony areas all in the same day seems great. Or, I could see if the Whistler alpine gets fogged out being able to head over to the more protected sub-apline areas of Blackcomb in the same morning. Personally, anything that helps me make the most of the time I have to ski W/B every few years is a bonus for me.
post #20 of 29
The gondola is good for a few reasons people don't see.
1)First getting from creekside to blackcomb. Now you either have to take the bus or ski up and ski/ download back down to the village. Also going from upper blackcomb village to whistler - no more bus or ski down - up and over!. This allows for greater expansion of those two villages
2) Blackcomb alpine opens well after whistler peak chair -takes longer to clear avanlance hazards now you can do whistler alpine and blackcomb.
3) with global warming going between the two mountains opens up more possiblities for higher lifts around the back of whistler or blackcomb - you can now do both mounts making the middle top of wishtler or blackcomb effectively the base area
post #21 of 29
as one person mentioned above, and I agree, 52m could have been spent in much better areas. Put a lift in back of Bagel Bowel / West Side area. How many days when there is good snow up top is the lift lines at Peak / Harmony horrible. 1 more lift - opening up tons of great terrain, would have been way more valuable... On Blackcomb - but in a lift opening up tons of great terrain in the Crystal zone.

This was all just a thing by Intrawest to say "look what we got"
post #22 of 29
So I got up to the top of Whistler just as the ceremony concluded and great amounts of celebratory noise was made, and the thing started.

I have to admit, looking at it from under the Emerald chair, no matter what you think of the concept, it's pretty freaking impressive seeing those cabins waaaayyyyy out there.

Of course, it would have been even better if the vis wasn't so bad, but well, it's Whistler, after all. Supposed to be clear tomorrow.
post #23 of 29
While it's probably not worth the money they spent on it. I don't think its that bad. It's not too uncommon for me to to ski both mountains in a day. I think it'll be useful to go between whistler and blackcomb with relatively little hassle. I should be up there this weekend, i'll probably check it out.
post #24 of 29
Isnt a big reason for this lift the olympics? How else would non skier types get to different venues on the two peaks?
post #25 of 29
^ That's what I understood, even though it still seems a bit like overkill. I'm headed there in April, so we'll see then...
post #26 of 29
OK guys: even if they could've spent the money on something better like new terrain, it's still a positive outcome! In which way is it negative or bad?
post #27 of 29
took a ride on the P2P today. Unfortunately it was so cold that frost covered all of the windows! Still pretty neat to look down at Fitz creek. The think that struck me was how steep the trip is - the arc of the cables feels much steeper when you are along for the ride. The other thing that I noticed was how smooth the ride was - it was windy today and the cars didn't even move. Unfortunately the ride didn't compensate for the lack of snow.
post #28 of 29
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took a ride on the P2P today. Unfortunately it was so cold that frost covered all of the windows
Yeah it was, my friend and I had to use our hotel cards to scrape that stuff off, which immediately got covered up again why with the twenty-odd people huffing and puffing in the gondola with -20c chill.

P2P is convenient for me to warm up with runs down Whistler's Franz and hit the Blackcomb Nintendo Park after lunch. Great stuff!
post #29 of 29
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Originally Posted by skiking4 View Post
OK guys: even if they could've spent the money on something better like new terrain, it's still a positive outcome! In which way is it negative or bad?
I didn't say it was bad! It's very very cool in fact, but a peak to peak gondola is overkill... AND cool all at the same time. Overkill is not necessarily bad
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