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Line Prophet 100 vs Nordica Enforcer - Thoughts?

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I am close to pulling the trigger but I am not able to demo either ski prior to doing so and unfoturnately there have not been a whole lot of reviews on these boards. Does anyone have experience with both skis and can offer their feedback on them?

A little background info.....expert level skier (former racer) looking for ski that can be taken into the back country. Looking for good float in powder and quick turns in tight spots (ie. Chutes and Trees) and decent on groomers if necessary. I am looking at the 186's in both skis as i am 6'3" and 210lbs.

Any thoughts/input would be really appreciated.

Thanks in advance!
post #2 of 27
That is a very interesting matchup. . . both get a lot of praise. I have only skied the P100 - but I can say that I had a shit-ton of fun on em, super fun to ski, they hold an edge amazingly and go from tight buttery turns to railing high speeds with ease. Based on my impressions on the enforcer I would say that it is a bit burlier - more of a big mountain type ski. I would say for versatilities sake go P100 - you'll be happy in just about any condition you encounter. . . but keep in mind I have not skied the enforcer. . .
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You did see that SierraJim has a sick deal on the older model of the enforcer, right?

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=76585

Mike
post #4 of 27
I have heard that the tail on the older enforcer causes some weird grip. Supposedly it was corrected this year . . . which is why they are dope skis
post #5 of 27
If you are looking at reviews make sure you aren't basing your decision on this year's ski. It is not a twin like it was in previous years. The prophet 100 is a much better ski for all-round performance. The enforcer is more like a fat groomer ski with poorer off piste performance.
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I have not been on the Enforcer either, but I have the P90. I absolutely love the ski; highly recommended. Ditto throwstoke and ut_hucker. Tons o’ fun in a multitude of conditions.
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Nobody said BROs? SHAME ON YOU!
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Nobody said BROs? SHAME ON YOU!
Why not make every thread have BRO stoke
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there are many,many of comments on prophet 100's

tgr,etc
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Why not make every thread have BRO stoke
Sounds good to me! If someone's asking "Jeez guys, what 100ish waisted twin would work for me?" I will at least say they should LOOK at the BROs... Now if we could only get SkiFishBum to come in here and avalanche us with stoke, this thread would be off to a great start!
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DoWork - That's what I'm afraid of.
BRO was not even part of the original equation.
post #12 of 27
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DoWork - That's what I'm afraid of.
BRO was not even part of the original equation.
Fair 'nuff, but when has a thread EVER NOT DEVIATED from the original equation? Maybe dumb swede has never heard of the best answer to his question...

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A little background info.....expert level skier (former racer) looking for ski that can be taken into the back country. Looking for good float in powder and quick turns in tight spots (ie. Chutes and Trees) and decent on groomers if necessary. I am looking at the 186's in both skis as i am 6'3" and 210lbs.

Any thoughts/input would be really appreciated.
Sounds kinda like the Lhasas would be a hell of a fit, no? Just sayin'...
post #13 of 27
Adding to the thread drift...there's a used pair of 188 Bros in Gear Swap on TGR that can be had for ~$225 or less...sumthin' to think about.
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Fair 'nuff, but when has a thread EVER NOT DEVIATED from the original equation? Maybe dumb swede has never heard of the best answer to his question...



Sounds kinda like the Lhasas would be a hell of a fit, no? Just sayin'...

I have and ski as my main skis P-100's and I love them That being said I'd rather have a pair of the Lhasa Pows for my backcountry rig but price does enter the equation. I can find P-100's for 350-450 brand new in the wrapper if I look hard but Lhasa Pows (800ish) will have to wait till/if the economy rebounds and the wife's commissions go way back up
post #15 of 27
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Bros Huh....

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Fair 'nuff, but when has a thread EVER NOT DEVIATED from the original equation? Maybe dumb swede has never heard of the best answer to his question...



Sounds kinda like the Lhasas would be a hell of a fit, no? Just sayin'...

Actually I more than appreciate the heads up, I hadn't thought of the Bros. It looks like there are supply issues and I don't know of any shops in Calgary carrying it. I was forced to make the call today as there was only 1 pair of the 186' Prophets left and I couldn't risk not getting the ski. It does sound like a good do everything board.

So...the search is over. 186 Prophet 100s with a Marker Duke binding. I appreciate everyone's input. I will post a review when I have spent some time on them.
post #16 of 27
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Actually I more than appreciate the heads up, I hadn't thought of the Bros. It looks like there are supply issues and I don't know of any shops in Calgary carrying it. I was forced to make the call today as there was only 1 pair of the 186' Prophets left and I couldn't risk not getting the ski. It does sound like a good do everything board.

So...the search is over. 186 Prophet 100s with a Marker Duke binding. I appreciate everyone's input. I will post a review when I have spent some time on them.
Well done sir!!!! That is going to be an awesome set up.....Congratulations on the new skis!!!!
post #17 of 27
I too was deciding between the Enforcer & Prophet; I just got a set of Prophet 100's in the 179 length with Marker Barons. I'm 5'10" 155 lbs. Can't wait to ride 'em!
post #18 of 27
Thread Starter 

Final Verdict.......

I don't know if this is BS but.....they are saying that everything was done correctly and it is just the way the jig lines up.

They said it has something to do with the amount the binding slides back when it goes into tour mode?

Can anyone confirm or dispute this?
post #19 of 27
I have not mounted a Duke, but it doesn't make sense. You are going to be skiing the ski with the binding in the alpine position. That is the position that your midsole should be mounted to. You don't want to ski this ski ahead of the mark. Most people skiing the whole mountain mount theirs at the line or 1cm behind the line. You will loose both float and hard pack performance ahead of the line. That sounds like a line of BS to me. They are just hoping that you don't know the difference so they don't have to fork out any money. I still say you should be given a new pair or have those remounted with a sizeable discount. Let me know what happens with them.
Where's the shop?
post #20 of 27
Obviously none of us are in a position to speak from firsthand observation of your skis & how the boots line up on them. But - the simple version is that with Dukes locked down in regular alpine ski mode and your boot in the binding, your boot center should be exactly on the appropriate midsole point on the ski. Either the marked one, or whatever point you specified.

If your shop acknowledges that the boot center and ski midsole mark do not line up, then they should acknowledge that they screwed up. If they claim anything goofy about touring mode affecting boot center for normal skiing, etc. then they either have no idea about the binding they are mounting or they are flat out lying to you. Neither is good.

When used correctly, the jigs put the bindings where they are supposed to be. There is also a stick-on jig that comes with every pair of Dukes - and guess what, you position it via a clearly marked boot center line...

If no one in your shop has (or can get) a clue, consider asking for a refund and either hunting for a local shop with a clue (hint, contact mntlion) or order as a package from untracked.com (= Al's) as they will mount your stuff spot on given correct information (and you can call them and sort everything out in advance if you have specific concerns or questions). While they routinely ship to Canada, I don't know what the shipping costs/tariffs from the US might look like...
post #21 of 27
FWIW I agree you should press for a refund but you might want to check availability elsewhere first. Maybe check Alpenland in Lethbridge. I bought there and they did a good job on my 186s although they were just plain look bindings.
post #22 of 27
hey Swede,

Where in Calgary did you get them? I too am looking at both these exact skis//
Duane
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hey Swede,

Where in Calgary did you get them? I too am looking at both these exact skis//
Duane
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sorry last post5 the system will not let me PM people until I have 5 posts... thanks d
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