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Pain with Lange GX-9

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Thread Starter 
I've had a pair of Lange GX9 (bright orange, aluminum buckles) for 5-6 seasons. Probably have 50 days in them. From day 1 they have been painful - in no specific spot on my feet, just a deep pain throughout... I've gone through custom footbeds and had the fit looked at a dozen times. I'm convinced they fit well. I figured time and breaking them in would work but that doesnt seem to be the issue. On flat ground and they are actually quite comfortable - I can wear them buckled for a while with no discomfort. Once I start skiing there is a deep throbbing pain throughout my foot. the only solution is to wear them loose to a point that I can hardly ski...

Anyone have some suggestions?
post #2 of 7
how tight are your calf muscles???
post #3 of 7
Thread Starter 
do you mean whil I'm skiing or generally? I've not noticed an issue with my calves while i"m skiing....i have skinny legs and feet which make for a great fit for the lange boots but after -1 2 runs my feet just ache throughout and I cant pinpoint this issue as the fit seems quite good. Could it be that I'm cutting off circulation? would that cause this kind of pain?
post #4 of 7
initially , generally.... the pain could be caused by your foot compensating for a tightness in the calf..... where there is no obvious cause or pressure point it is probably best to give up on trying to solve this on line and go see a good fitter, there is a list at the top of the forum

good luck
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Thread Starter 
i actually bought a pair of salomon falcon s-lab x2s a few weeks ago as a contingency... I bought them after market so now I have to figure out how to install and adjust all the plastic fittings that came with the boot. Can you provide any direction here? I'm not going to micro-tinker with all of the boot angles but a basic guide to all of the parts and how they can be used/adjusted would be a big help...
post #6 of 7
I would have to agree with CEM, you need to go see a 'good' bootfitter. Emphasize on 'good' bootfitter. You commented on having a custom footbed made and have had them looked at a dozen times.
Are the bootfitters just looking or accually doing something to the boot? After a dozon times you should be feeling some relief. A brief explaination of what they have done would be helpful.

One thing to keep in mind when finding a good bootfitter. A perticular shop my have a great reputation but make sure you find the guy or guy's (or gal) that have contributed to that reputation. Many times there may only be one or two guys at a shop that are really good fitters and the rest of the guys are in 'training'. Nothing against the guys in training, they just haven't put in the time to accurately diagnose your problem. If you happen to hit a day where the good fitter has a day off you may not be getting the expertise you need.

As far as the new boots, you might try going to a shop that sells the boots and ask a qaulified sales person to explain the parts and features.
post #7 of 7

a few questions that you can answer that will help this out.

1) What is the shell fit like for length? Remove the liner, put your foot in the shell only, have your toes lightly touching the front of the boot and see how much room is behind your heel and the boots shell. Use a pen as a spacer and measure this for thickness. You want 5-15mm (3/16 to 5/8 inch) of room. If you have more then 25mm (1") stop here

2) What is the shell fit like for width? Now center your foot front to back, (same amount of room behind the toe and heel) and is the width of your foot touching the sides of the boots shell? You want anything from lightly brushing to 2mm per side. If you have 3mm per side stop here.

3) Do you have any footbeds? Most people find an off the rack, or full custom footbed more comfortable, and helps to hold the foot in place better, Get one.

So if your boot is within all of the above parameters we can go on. If your boot is just too big it is not worth working on. Your foot will still move around; you have to over tighten the buckles, and cramp to foot and cut off circulation (cold toes). Your boots are too big, and nothing will make that much better. Don’t waste your time, and money fixing a broken leg with bandaids. You need boots that are 1-2 sizes smaller. If you really want work on what you have, a boot fitter can do some-things, but it will not get much better, and will be $50 - $150 for not much progress.

So now that your boot is within a workable size range in length, width and with a supportive footbed we can go on to getting more info.

A few basic things to check first:

1) You just have one, thin, clean ski sock in the boots
2) You just have a sock in the boot? (no thermals, jewelry, etc)
3) Your toe nails are trimmed short?
4) They are YOUR boots and not borrowed?
5) You are just skiing in your ski boots? (not walking, driving etc)?
6) You dry your liners out at night either with a dryer or remove liners?
7) The left liner, the left footbed are in the left boot and this is on the left foot?
8) You are loosening the buckles if you are not skiing (while standing, on lifts, etc)
9) You are not skiing all day in new boots? They need time to break in
10) Buckles are pointing to the outside?

So your boots are the right size, AND you are doing everything else right, but still the boots are not 100% right. These questions will help a boot fitter will have a better understanding of the problem and can start to help you:

Better Or Worse = (BOW)

1) BOW with the buckles tighter or looser?

2) BOW with thinner or thicker socks?

3) BOW with any footbeds (custom, stock, none, etc)?

4) BOW skiing, standing, or feet un-weighted (hanging off a chair lift)?

5) BOW throughout the day (and when does the pain start?)

6) BOW on the first vs the third day?

7) BOW on harder or easier terrain?

8) BOW with the power straps (Velcro straps) tighter or looser?

9) BOW if you do any particular movements, or actions?

10) Any medical, health, or weight changes since you used them last?
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