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post #1 of 11
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I am hoping some of you can help me with my some information about Jackson Hole. Booking a trip for late December ahead of time is a gamble, as you all know. Looking at all the wisdom and statistics available on the internet I gather that Grand Targhee and Jackson Hole are a pretty good bet regarding their chance of having snow and a lot of open terrain around Christmas. It seems that in years past most all of both mountains are open by mid December. Do any of you know how the potential lift and terrain openings are shaping up right now? Is there enough snow on the ground already to open up the whole mountain by Dec. 20th or so if it snows even just a little between now and then? Or is it going to take several feet of snow to get the hill opened up? I know snowfall cannot be predicted, but I am hoping some of you Jackson Bears can give me some information. The website gives no clues away, other than to say that the tram will run on Dec. 20. It seems that if the tram runs, then most of the mountain would be open. Please help me out so I can decide whether or not to book this trip. If I could travel on a day or two notice later in January or February, I would wait and do it then. But with my son still in school, late December is when I have the most days available for a trip. I will post photos and a TR whenever I do make this trip. Thanks ahead of time.
post #2 of 11
There has been a lot of chatter lately, from both people planning trips and locals. Take a look in the various forums for up to date info. Statistically, it should be OK by Christmas, but that is not a guarantee. Right now it doesn't look real promising in the short term, so there would have to be several major snow dumps between now and Christmas for things to go the way you want. Not unheard of, but not guaranteed. Maybe one of the locals can give historical examples of good, typical, and bad conditions for late December.
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Originally Posted by AH&E View Post
I am hoping some of you can help me with my some information about Jackson Hole. Booking a trip for late December ahead of time is a gamble, as you all know. Looking at all the wisdom and statistics available on the internet I gather that Grand Targhee and Jackson Hole are a pretty good bet regarding their chance of having snow and a lot of open terrain around Christmas. It seems that in years past most all of both mountains are open by mid December. Do any of you know how the potential lift and terrain openings are shaping up right now? Is there enough snow on the ground already to open up the whole mountain by Dec. 20th or so if it snows even just a little between now and then? Or is it going to take several feet of snow to get the hill opened up? I know snowfall cannot be predicted, but I am hoping some of you Jackson Bears can give me some information. The website gives no clues away, other than to say that the tram will run on Dec. 20. It seems that if the tram runs, then most of the mountain would be open. Please help me out so I can decide whether or not to book this trip. If I could travel on a day or two notice later in January or February, I would wait and do it then. But with my son still in school, late December is when I have the most days available for a trip. I will post photos and a TR whenever I do make this trip. Thanks ahead of time.
Christmas 2005, 2006, 2007 = OUTSTANDING!

Christmas 2008 = Who Knows?

Here's the weblink to the NOAA 7-day forecast for Jackson Hole:

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick...2=-110.764&e=0

Now you know EXACTLY as much as any Jackson Hole local knows.

Personally, I don't think it looks all that promising, but three or four or five huge storms could come between now and Christmas. If that happens, we'll be golden.

Does that help in some way?
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post
Here's the weblink to the NOAA 7-day forecast for Jackson Hole:

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick...2=-110.764&e=0
I find that promising with a chance of snow everyday pretty much!
post #5 of 11
It's dumping right now. It will take a lot of snow to open the whole mountain. Based on alomost 20 seasons here I would guess that there will be good skiing over Christmass. If I could predict the weather accuratly I wouldn't be posting here. Targhee did open top to bottom this weekend>
post #6 of 11
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Booking a trip for late December ahead of time is a gamble
Booking considerations are different this year. You might try holding out until very late and see what deals you can negotiate. A room/condo/house rented out for just about $anything is better than one left empty from the owner's viewpoint. Put your cheapskate negotiating skills to work.

I used to live in Jackson. It is not a heavy snow area, at least compared to Alta/Snowbird. And, if the storm track isn't going their way, they won't get heavy dumps until the storm track shifts. Be nimble.
post #7 of 11
The gondola is scheduled to open this weekend. My friend got to ski about 6 runs up there yesterday and said coverage is not bad above S. Pass traverse. He said he was skiing in mid calf powder.
post #8 of 11
Me and 3 buddies are making the long trek from MA to Jackson via minivan, leaving December 26th. Trying to take advantage of these gas prices while they last. Only my second time out west, can't wait to get there!! I've been looking at the trail map almost daily since october...how are the crowds during in late December? Any suggestions as to where the good untracked stuff will be?
post #9 of 11
In terms of lots of room to ski untracked snow, the lower faces at Jackson are hard to beat. I finally had that experience in late January 2006, as Bob Peters will attest.

But snowfall down there is less than where the reporting is done, and I have to believe it's a close call on how much of that is skiable by Christmas. I have little doubt that it was all good the past 3 years as Bob says. Perhaps he might have a feel for when the Hobacks etc. typically open over the long term since he's lived there quite a while.

I personally find it more informative to see a range of data for a question like this. Such as X% before Christmas week, Y% before New Years, Z% by mid-January, etc.

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It is not a heavy snow area, at least compared to Alta/Snowbird.
A property it shares with 99+% of the world's ski areas. But it's probably top 10-15% in North America for snow and a better speculation for Christmas than most.
post #10 of 11
Crowds in late December are about as large as they get here. If you could come on the first week in January the whole mountain becomes like a ghost town. Still crowded here is nothing like what I remember from back east. It is likely that the upper mountain will be open and skiing pretty well by then. The lower faces and Hobacks are not as for sure. They are lower elevation and require a good bit to cover the obsticles.
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The lower faces and Hobacks are not as for sure. They are lower elevation and require a good bit to cover the obsticles.
^^^What he said.

We are just a few storms away from complete coverage. The 64K question is when will that happen?

Also Bob said above the last few Christmas seasons have been outstanding. More than a few times, we've all been sweating it out during this part of the year & had it all fall in place for the busier weeks of the season.
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