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WHAT SKI FOR EASTERN CONDITIONS?'s

post #1 of 28
Thread Starter 
I have read so many post here about which ski to buy and it is confusing to say the least! I am looking for ski that has the edge grip of my Volkl P60 GC, but is a hair more forgiving. I have a 183 and also had a 172, which I sold. I am skiing mainly at Shawnee in PA now where I started to Ski Patroling with a bunch of very cool people, I had a lot of fun last winter hanging with them. I skied the 183 in Killington where I skied basiclly my whole life, I originally purchase the 172 and when I really started to wick it up on Superstar, Wildfire, Bear Claw, Needles Eye etc. it didn't have the stability I wanted, so I bought the 183 for skiing there. Then when I came down here of course I can ski the 183, I came off of a 210 Race Ski, but I found that it would be easier to on a 173 for the hills around here. I also want something that has the performance of the P60 GC, but is a little less tiring. I know, I know I am asking for the all around ski, please help me find a few skis that I can demo. Thank everyone in advance for your help. Best regards,
Sigggy
post #2 of 28
Thread Starter 
I forgot to say that I use to ski 100 days a year and also race. Thanks again.

Regards,

Siggy
post #3 of 28
For I would demo both the Volkl Tigershark 10, and the Nordica Hot Rod Nitrous.
post #4 of 28
+ Volkl Tigershark 10 or 12. Powerswitch not necessary.
post #5 of 28
Rossignol CX80
post #6 of 28
Good advice already posted.

Rossi CX80 or Volkl Tigershark 10 or 12.

As a racer, you'll appreciate the precision.
post #7 of 28
To add, compared to the Volkl Racetiger RC that is much thinner than the Tigershark 12, there isnt much performance difference on the hardpack. I can ski on 173 RCs whenever I feel like it (my close friends, I just throw him my Tigersharks to use) and I feel that the difference in waist width is marginal when looking at edge to edge response. If I were you I would look into the 12, as it would give you more float in soft stuff and they would be more stable in the soft soft fresh snow groomers.
post #8 of 28
Thread Starter 
I appreciate everyones replies and help! Can someone tell me the differance between the Volkl Tigershark 10 and 12 please. Thank you again.

Siggy
post #9 of 28
Might want to state your height and weight.
post #10 of 28
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Originally Posted by siggy1ride View Post
I appreciate everyones replies and help! Can someone tell me the differance between the Volkl Tigershark 10 and 12 please. Thank you again.

Siggy
Slight difference in stiffness (10s are softer), and thinner waist on the 10s, resulting in a minor change in radius.
post #11 of 28
Thread Starter 
I am 6'1" and weigh 245lbs.
post #12 of 28
I would go for the 12s in a 175 then.
post #13 of 28
also you could look at some of the non stock volkl race skis, they're a bit softer and have a smaller radius than the stock versions, but still hold very well.

personally i was not sold on the tigersharks, didn't like how they skied compared to the stock skis or the cheaters. but i know a lot of people do.
post #14 of 28
Have only been out a few days this season, but together with last, notice Patrol guys usually on Elan Mags, Head SS Speeds or Magnums, a few Progressors, no Tigersharks. Sub 70's seem to be beat down Atomics (usually Px's) or Fischer RC's. (Slopeside store sells all of these brands except Atomics and Elans, so clearly non-random sample.)

All of which means, uh, that most patrol folks use cheaper skis for their work?
post #15 of 28
At that height and weight you can really go with all the burly stuff. I would say go for some Head Worldcup iSpeed, or SS Speeds, their qualities seem to match up to what you are looking for and Head even aims them at expert skiers and instructors in their product descriptions. 177 is the longest length I believe...there might be a 185 for the iSpeeds.
post #16 of 28
Thread Starter 
All of the replies are great, please keep them coming!

I need to demo some of these skis!
post #17 of 28
Tigershark 12 is a fun ski for your purposes: I really like them. Other great skis:

Fischer Progressor 9+ (powerhouse frontside ski, best under bigger skiers)
Nordica Speedmachine Mach 3 Power (same as the progressor, a little more damp, Progressor more "snappy")
Dynastar 4x4 (very stable, smooth, can do anything, holds like glue)
Elan Speedwave 14's (if you can find 'em, not in the US for 2008/2009, great powerhouse carver)
Rossi CX80 (haven't skied it, but others are raving)
Head Supershape Magnum (lots of good reviews here, you would love them in a longer length for frontside use)

All of these skis are suitable for the bigger, more powerful skier. A race carver will also work, and there are some good ones:

Head iSpeed WC
Fischer WC RC (although the Progressor is likely a better choice)
Elan GSR magnesium IQ
Elan GSX Waveflex (my favorite race carver)

Also, you could get away with a power ski around 80mm in width, depending on if you wanted to give away a bit of edgehold and race-like engagement for versatility in softer snow: here are some skis that would work:

Head Monster iM82: a great carver, a real powerhouse in a longer length
Elan Magfire 82Xti: a little stiffer than the iM82, perfect for a big guy, minimum weight probably 190lbs
Fischer Cold Heat: skis long, and it is a stout board, great carver and soft snow blend
Nordica Jet Fuel: similar to the Cold Heat, powerful, race-like all-mountain board
Stockli XXL: I haven't skied it, but loved the XXXL: great for a big guy
Volkl AC50: another pretty stiff carver and good do-everything ski. Probably most like the Cold Heat in terms of performance and feel

Good luck with your quest. There are a ton of suitable skis out there for you to try.
post #18 of 28
I can't picture the guy pulling a sled on a plated race ski.
post #19 of 28
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Originally Posted by epic View Post
Rossignol CX80
Are you able to name differences between CX80 compared to Stormrider XXL ?
post #20 of 28
Never skied the XXL. I'll bet it has faster bases though.
post #21 of 28
yea Head SS - used mine today and they worked great! Typical ice covered with some fluff. Carved the ice and handled the snow on top just fine.

I'm skiing the 175, 6-2 190 strong skier.
post #22 of 28
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Originally Posted by Lobo View Post
Are you able to name differences between CX80 compared to Stormrider XXL ?
I have 2 days on my Stormrider XXLs. I have it in a 170 cm length and this thing rips groomers and bumps and likes short and long turns and anything in between. If I skied regularly out west, I would have gotten it in 178. When flexing this ski by hand, it seems very soft. By comparison, the CX80 is very stiff and has more sidecut. A friend of mine demoed the CX80 last winter and he liked it on groomers but not so much in bumps.
post #23 of 28
Not to be overly self-serving, but I have a brand new in wrapper pair of 175 Fischer RX Fire 8's for sale which might fit the bill. I'm selling them for $500, $450 for a Supporter, but I'd give a Patroller a deal any day! (I don't sell skis, this is a pair I just happen to have for sale because I don't need them.)

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...76#post1012876
post #24 of 28
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Originally Posted by mohrgan View Post
I have 2 days on my Stormrider XXLs. I have it in a 170 cm length and this thing rips groomers and bumps and likes short and long turns and anything in between. If I skied regularly out west, I would have gotten it in 178. When flexing this ski by hand, it seems very soft. By comparison, the CX80 is very stiff and has more sidecut. A friend of mine demoed the CX80 last winter and he liked it on groomers but not so much in bumps.
So, I will go to 170 XXL's. How do you feel or better say, what are your knees feelings with XXL's ? I have some doubts but so soft ski should be knee friendlyAm I right ? What about stability at speed ?
post #25 of 28
I vote for the Dynastar Contact 4x4 - awesome ski! My eastern ski.
post #26 of 28
Just spent a day on Tigersharks at Sunapee. The day started out with nice groomed hardpack, and then it started snowing. At the end of the day I couldn't feel the difference between the two; the Tigersharks plow right through powder mounds.
post #27 of 28
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Originally Posted by Lobo View Post
So, I will go to 170 XXL's. How do you feel or better say, what are your knees feelings with XXL's ? I have some doubts but so soft ski should be knee friendlyAm I right ? What about stability at speed ?
The ski flexes soft in the shop but on the hill this thing rips. It also skis very easily in my opinion. You can bend it to almost any shape turn. Much easier than the Stormrider XL which has a wood core versus the synthetic core in the XXL. The XL has a higher top speed though. At high speed the XXL felt a little squirrely, probably more a result of the short length I'm on. The ski is more of a compromise between piste and off piste than the XL. FYI, I am 5'8" and about 175 Lbs.
post #28 of 28
EDIT: nevermind, will start a new thread so as not to hijack.
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