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post #1 of 13
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I am looking to buy an 80% groomer, occasional off piste and powder ski. I am an adventurous intermediate 170lb 6ft and reasonably fit. I Ski 2 weeks a year and enjoy the challenge of Blacks and moguls although I am by no means proficient. I would like a ski that I can get to know and grow into.

I don't like gadgets.

My short list is (in no order);- Dynastar Contact 10, Head Xenon Xi10.0, Rossignol Zenith Z7 and Volkl AC20. All around 170cm.

Does anyone have any views, so that I can get down to a couple of skis to try out? Any additional recommendations would be welcomed.
post #2 of 13
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Originally Posted by DavidYacht View Post
I am looking to buy an 80% groomer, occasional off piste and powder ski. I am an adventurous intermediate 170lb 6ft and reasonably fit. I Ski 2 weeks a year and enjoy the challenge of Blacks and moguls although I am by no means proficient. I would like a ski that I can get to know and grow into.

I don't like gadgets.

My short list is (in no order);- Dynastar Contact 10, Head Xenon Xi10.0, Rossignol Zenith Z7 and Volkl AC20. All around 170cm.

Does anyone have any views, so that I can get down to a couple of skis to try out? Any additional recommendations would be welcomed.
i would recommend either the 172 or 178 dynastar legend 8000. it'll do you fine on the groomers with a mild amount of off-piste thrown in. the 172 will serve you well now, but at your size (we're the same size, by the way), the 178 will be good for you to grow into.
post #3 of 13
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Originally Posted by lukc View Post
i would recommend either the 172 or 178 dynastar legend 8000. it'll do you fine on the groomers with a mild amount of off-piste thrown in. the 172 will serve you well now, but at your size (we're the same size, by the way), the 178 will be good for you to grow into.
I agree with this, the L8K is just a great all around ski. It's not the first ski I use in deeper powder, but it can get through it just fine if need be. I would say that it's not going to carve up groomers nearly as well as the Contact 10 will though. Maybe you should demo the Contact 4x4. I've never been on them, but they sound like they would do well for you but be a little more groomer oriented than the L8K's.
post #4 of 13
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Originally Posted by lukc View Post
i would recommend either the 172 or 178 dynastar legend 8000. it'll do you fine on the groomers with a mild amount of off-piste thrown in. the 172 will serve you well now, but at your size (we're the same size, by the way), the 178 will be good for you to grow into.
Ditto. I'm 5'6" 190 and have skied the 8000 in 172 and own a pair of 172 MR's. At your size I might opt for the 178
post #5 of 13
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Originally Posted by DavidYacht View Post
My short list is (in no order);- Dynastar Contact 10, Head Xenon Xi10.0, Rossignol Zenith Z7 and Volkl AC20. All around 170cm..
Of these, the Contact 10 (old LTD/older 11) makes the most sense to me; responsive, will pull you into big carves, excellent in bumps and tight spaces, big tip crushes crud, and grippy on hardpack/ice. It'll grow with you; quite feasible even for lighter advanced/experts. Has a speed limit, but decently high. AC 20 is too focused on hardpack, rest are not enough ski for you. Only glitch for the 10 would be that it's a 72 waist, so if you find yourself moving more toward off-piste, and want to stick with one ski, you might wish you had something like the 8000, a Head iM78, or a Blizzard 8.1.

But IMO, better to get something like the 10, and when/if you're ready to hit powder, buy a mid-90's to low 100's ski. There are double ski bags, y'know...
post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by beyond View Post
Of these, the Contact 10 (old LTD/older 11) makes the most sense to me; responsive, will pull you into big carves, excellent in bumps and tight spaces, big tip crushes crud, and grippy on hardpack/ice. It'll grow with you; quite feasible even for lighter advanced/experts. Has a speed limit, but decently high. AC 20 is too focused on hardpack, rest are not enough ski for you. Only glitch for the 10 would be that it's a 72 waist, so if you find yourself moving more toward off-piste, and want to stick with one ski, you might wish you had something like the 8000, a Head iM78, or a Blizzard 8.1.

But IMO, better to get something like the 10, and when/if you're ready to hit powder, buy a mid-90's to low 100's ski. There are double ski bags, y'know...
This is excellent advice, take it.
post #7 of 13
Where in the country do you ski? Are you at a big mountain or a small hill? Do you travel much or plan to? Is your off piste skiing on short mogul runs, in the trees, or is it in more open terrain like bowls? When you ski off trail how often do you encounter powder? On average how deep do you see?

SJ
post #8 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks SierraJim I always respect your posts ...

I mainly ski in France ... Three Valleys, Alpe D'Huez on piste. Last year I worked on getting confidence in moguls, this year I want to do a little guided off piste.

Although I have skied on and off for 20 years, most of it has been on piste and often on ice!

I agree with beyond that it would be worth renting ski for big powder days when required.
post #9 of 13
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I mainly ski in France ... Three Valleys, Alpe D'Huez on piste. Last year I worked on getting confidence in moguls, this year I want to do a little guided off piste.
I had suspected this.

The whole percentage naming thing just isn't done over here. Not that there's anything wrong with it, but most of the readers will have a different skiing and snow conditions context than you do.

You may want to think about longer skis.
post #10 of 13
Of your original list, I don't have experience with the Heads. I do have experience with the others and the Contact 10 is the best ski of that batch. However, I would also suggest the Legend 8K. Within it's waist width category it is a very versatile ski that is light, fairly nimble and definitely not wimpy in any way. The 8K will not have quite the grip of the Contact series (or other similar skis). OTOH, it offers a good balance of skills for mixed but mostly firm or rather shallow soft snow conditions. Given "normal" conditions over there, the need for something wider will be pretty rare.

SJ
post #11 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks SierraJim, sounds like I need a Dynastar dealer who can demo the Contact 10 and the Legend 8k, thanks again
post #12 of 13
I was gonna recommend the Contact 10 too. Check out the Contact Groove as well. I've heard good things.
post #13 of 13
The groove would be a fine choice as a very narrow waisted hard snow carver. It would not IMO be a great fit in this case.

SJ
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