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Head WC i. Supershape CP 13 vs any new ski!

post #1 of 17
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I'm looking for a new pair of ski's to destroy (in the kindest way possible of course) I currently ski the Head WC i. Supershape CP 13 (from 2006). I love the things, i raced when i was younger, and the speed skiing stayed (as did many of the bad form habits but thats a discussion for another day). I'm looking to pick up another ski as my heads probably won't make it through another year... I have one pair of ski's i use for everything and i live out east so most of my skiing is in hard pack, piste, and well ice lots and lots of ice. I am looking for a similar ski that is as much fun as this little guy (if i remember properly i'm on 160's ish...). I have a preference for head (know a dealer) but am willing to pick up anything but say a blizzard (bad expierence with a pair of xcrosses...as in i bought them).

Any luck for an advanced (i hate the word expert seriously if i couldn't get better then where would the fun be) skiier.

I'm really aggresive and speed is my thing, but i still love to mix it up with short medium and long radius turns! Please help me out, I'm sad to see these babies go and need something to soften the blow!
post #2 of 17
Is this HS???? Maybe chaos? Come on' a CP13 is a plate for the ski.
post #3 of 17
Try the Head SS Speed, made for speed and medium-long turns...bonus is that you can reuse your current bindings from your dead Heads.
post #4 of 17
Thread Starter 
been checking out the SS Speed opinions?
post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 
and its a head supershape i was just giving you my specs sorry to confuse
post #6 of 17
Just curious, what have you done to your current skis that you dont think that they will last another season?
post #7 of 17
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Originally Posted by kinalis View Post

I'm really aggresive and speed is my thing, but i still love to mix it up with short medium and long radius turns! Please help me out, I'm sad to see these babies go and need something to soften the blow!
I have one more possibility to add to the mix. I've spent the last four days skiing on the new (for the '08/09 season) Head World Cup iSpeed.



It's a "cheater GS", sandwich construction race ski with an 18m turn radius. It's smooth and powerful with all the traditional feel of a Head race ski. It's just a joy to ski.

It's not quite as easy for cranking out rapid-fire short turns as the regular SuperShape, but the WC iSpeed has a definite advantage when you lengthen the turns and ratchet up the speed.

I don't think it's a particularly demanding ski at slow speeds, so I can be lazy on it when I want to, but it just feels totally solid when the trees start going by pretty fast. I like the 18m turn radius because it's short enough to make tight turns without much effort but it's long enough that the skis don't feel at all twitchy when you let 'em run.

I think the SuperShape, the SuperShape Magnum, the SuperShape Speed, and the World Cup iSpeed are all great skis. Each has its own niche but each also overlaps the performance range rather nicely.

Good luck in your choice.
post #8 of 17
And you can't beat the name.

"What skis do you use?"
"I Speed"
"Yes, we all know you speed, but what skis do you use?"
"Head I Speed"
"Yes, but which Head?"
"Head SuperShape I Speed"
"Which supershape?
"I speed."
"LOOK! WE ALL KNOW YOU SPEED. WHAT SKIS DO YOU USE?"

All they need do now is come out with a binding named "What".
post #9 of 17
Thread Starter 
I agree what would be a great binding name. My ski's are starting to delaminate not sure why just started to happen. And thanks bob I'll have to check em out.
post #10 of 17
I also love head slalom skis. I'm trying out a pair of SS this year that are a 07 leftover I picked up cheap. I loved the old i sl chips I skied a few years ago. The upshot is, when you do this you can get some really good deals.

Slalom skis seem to be like sports cars - last years leftovers get out of favor quick. And to me, there don't appear to be earth changing differences.
post #11 of 17
I have both the identical ancestor to the iSpeed (06 1200 SW) and the 07 SS. Love both. Will not hop on the bandwagon, though, because IMO the iSpeed can be a bit much for eastern slopes. I like it when I'm going to rip on a bigger/longer run, or do some recreational racing, but it's not as fun at lower speeds or high angle carving as the SS.

Unclear if you love it so much why you don't just update the model, but otherwise take a hard look at last year's Stockli Laser SC. Suspect Nordica Doberman would also give you what you want.
post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by kinalis View Post
I agree what would be a great binding name. My ski's are starting to delaminate not sure why just started to happen. And thanks bob I'll have to check em out.
If you are not bashing them in the park, and have not hit any rocks, then I would contact Head, they have excellent customer service and maybe your skis are defective. I have a pair of Heads that are 6 years old and have been used and abused, bent, and even cracked an edge but have no delaminations.
post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by Richie-Rich View Post
I have a pair of Heads that are 6 years old and have been used and abused, bent, and even cracked an edge but have no delaminations.
So those skis should have at least 14 ski days on them.... Sounds like they are holding up well for a ski with that type of heavy usage.
post #14 of 17
14 days what do you think I ski everyday?!?....come on now, this season will be my 5th day on them
post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by kinalis View Post
I'm looking for a new pair of ski's to destroy (in the kindest way possible of course) I currently ski the Head WC i. Supershape CP 13 (from 2006)...
Any luck for an advanced (i hate the word expert seriously if i couldn't get better then where would the fun be) skiier.

I'm really aggresive and speed is my thing, but i still love to mix it up with short medium and long radius turns! Please help me out, I'm sad to see these babies go and need something to soften the blow!
Seems everybody loves the Supershape, but how about taking a look at the Rossignol Radical Oversize 9X (or 9S for slalom). I found them to be every bit as grippy as the Supershapes.
post #16 of 17
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Originally Posted by beyond View Post
I have both the identical ancestor to the iSpeed (06 1200 SW) and the 07 SS. Love both. Will not hop on the bandwagon, though, because IMO the iSpeed can be a bit much for eastern slopes. I like it when I'm going to rip on a bigger/longer run, or do some recreational racing, but it's not as fun at lower speeds or high angle carving as the SS.
beyond, are you sure you're not mistaking the SS Speed (which is the progeny of the 1200 SW) for the new World Cup iSpeed?

I realize that all these similar Head models can be very confusing. The WC iSpeed is brand new this year (although there were a pair or two in the US last spring). It's similar construction to the SS Speed, but has different geometry.

The only reason I'm asking is that I would agree with you that the SuperShape Speed can be a little balky at lower speeds, but I think the new iSpeed is a bit friendlier at lower speeds.

Thanks
post #17 of 17
You're right, Bob. I was referring to the SS Speed of the last few years, which I mistakenly thought was also called the iSpeed since it uses Head's LM and i tech. If the new name/version is a touch easier at moderate speeds, it might be perfect for OP.
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