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Thinking about getting a GS ski

post #1 of 27
Thread Starter 
So I've been playing with the idea of a getting either a GS ski or a long radius carver to make bad snow days more fun, especially when I feel the urge to crank up the speed.

I'm about 5'10", 185-190, fairly advanced skier, live on the ice coast. My main ski this year is going to be a pair of Scott Santiago Missions, then again if I get a ski for ice days, that might be my main ski (lets hope not). i did a couple of years of very half assed racing for my high school team (~15 years ago).

Sometimes I just like to make long turns at higher speeds, I don't need it to be very versatile, I just want something to crank long icey turns on. And I need it to be cheap, not sure how possible this is going to be.

Any thoughts on skis i should look at/deals to be found? thoughts on length? I haven't bought a ski like this in maaaany years, for all mountain type skis, I go mid-high 170s, my Missions are 177s.

Not opposed at all to used.

thanks.

(yes I know i should demo)
post #2 of 27
Ebay under Elan or Dynastar
post #3 of 27
You need to decide if you want a ~21 meter consumer ski, a ~25 meter men's race ski, or a recent >27 meter men's ski.

I'd suggest something used in one of the first two categories. These things are a dime a dozen. Length will probably be 185-193.
post #4 of 27
If you are looking for a "real" GS ski then you will be looking at 183 ish or longer (up to a 191-193) There are some shorter radius GS skis available in 176 ish. I'll take a look and see what we have when I get to the store this AM. IIRC we have maybe 150-200 pr of GS/SG skis in stock at the moment.

SJ
post #5 of 27
Thread Starter 
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You need to decide if you want a ~21 meter consumer ski, a ~25 meter men's race ski, or a recent >27 meter men's ski.

I'd suggest something used in one of the first two categories. These things are a dime a dozen. Length will probably be 185-193.
I don't follow racing (especially rules and regs) as much as I should, but aren't 25m skis no longer legal under FIS rules? How far on down the line does this apply? Would I have a good chance of finding a good deal on a ski in this range?

given what i said i want this ski for, do you guys think it makes sense to get a GS ski? Or would something less racey make more sense?
post #6 of 27
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Would I have a good chance of finding a good deal on a ski in this range?
You'd have a good chance of finding a deal on any of these types of ski, including the recent 27 meter skis that are currently legal. GS skis are always a dime a dozen.

Making a GS ski work can be good fun if you have the space to do it. If you are skiing crowded, shallow pitches, something with a shorter radius will be much more fun.
post #7 of 27
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Garrett View Post
You'd have a good chance of finding a deal on any of these types of ski, including the recent 27 meter skis that are currently legal. GS skis are always a dime a dozen.

Making a GS ski work can be good fun if you have the space to do it. If you are skiing crowded, shallow pitches, something with a shorter radius will be much more fun.
Definitely shorter pitches, crowded not so much (these are more for midweek, night time and when the snow is so bad I'm the only one out there).

The price factor makes me think GS is a good way to go, because as you said, dime a dozen.
post #8 of 27
Iriponsnow has an overstock of GS skis, PM him.
post #9 of 27
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Originally Posted by Garrett View Post
You need to decide if you want a ~21 meter consumer ski, a ~25 meter men's race ski, or a recent >27 meter men's ski.

I'd suggest something used in one of the first two categories. These things are a dime a dozen. Length will probably be 185-193.
Don't rule out recent women's FIS skis e.g. 180 and >21m (like my Fischers - go on, call me a big girl's blouse ).
post #10 of 27
Dumpy,
Whatever you get, you are going to have a lot of fun with them. My groomer zoomer for midweek skiing is a 183 cm Nordica GSR that I got in 2003. I'd recommend 183ish and up.

Dennis
post #11 of 27
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Don't rule out recent women's FIS skis e.g. 180 and >21m (like my Fischers - go on, call me a big girl's blouse ).
How much of a difference will there be other than turn radius? Will they typically be softer? Would that be good for a mere mortal just looking for some grip and zip? 180 seems like a good length...
post #12 of 27
That is a good idea. Probably more fun on WNY sized hills.
post #13 of 27
I mounted up these Rossi's, 181 and I am questioning myself if they are enough ski for what I want them for, I am thinking I want a 185 or 190. They are also softer than I expected.

post #14 of 27
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How much of a difference will there be other than turn radius? Will they typically be softer? Would that be good for a mere mortal just looking for some grip and zip? 180 seems like a good length...
Without having made direct comparisons, I'd say yes - a bit softer as they're made for lighter racers. This mere mortal bought his for running tight-ish GS gates in parents' races and club champs - time will tell how that works out.
post #15 of 27
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I mounted up these Rossi's, 181 and I am questioning myself if they are enough ski for what I want them for, I am thinking I want a 185 or 190. They are also softer than I expected.
Is that a warning or a heads up on something that will soon be for sale??
post #16 of 27
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Is that a warning or a heads up on something that will soon be for sale??
The latter.
post #17 of 27

PMed ya.

I may have some skis for ya.
post #18 of 27
Thread Starter 
So as far as length is concerned, I'm seeing a lot of numbers being tossed around. What do some of the more knowledgeable than I Bears think? would 178 be too short? Should I look more in the 183-185 range?

Keep in mind no racing (this season at least), just something different for ice days.
post #19 of 27
A 178 is either a consumer GS ski or a ski aimed at juniors. The former would be better for you than the latter.

Without large mountains and steep pitches to play on, I'd think you'd be happier with a 180-something ski than a 190-something ski if you go for real GS skis. I have some softie 187s that are very easy to ski.
post #20 of 27

Karma Police

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The latter.
You had better give whoever one %#$$@ of a price
post #21 of 27
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You had better give whoever one %#$$@ of a price
"pay it forward", I will get them to him for the same price you gave me...(+shipping).
post #22 of 27
Thread Starter 
So Phil, when do you think you will be lightening your quiver??

Irip, I heard you may have what I'm looking for too, is this true?
post #23 of 27
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So Phil, when do you think you will be lightening your quiver??

Irip, I heard you may have what I'm looking for too, is this true?
I am working on some 185's now, will know tomorrow if I can secure them. If not, Irip has some Dynastars I might switch over to. Either way, you have dibs on these if you want them.
post #24 of 27
my .02 is that - for you area and slopes - you will be happier on beefy GS stuff in shorter lengths.

But I have an ulterior motive. Did I mention the 178 Blizzards with race plate and Marker bindings.

PM me for pix and make me an offer.
post #25 of 27
Dumpy, If you want the 180's, PM me.
post #26 of 27
There are quite a few Fischer WC GS skis for sale with out bindings, and I just happen to have a new, in the box pair of RC4 Z 13 FF's if you need them.
post #27 of 27
Check out the Elan GSX Fusion Pro: 19m radius in 182, and it is a lot of ski. It has more sidecut and surface area than a race stock GS, so it skis long, like a 185-188 race ski.

We might have a pair laying around from last year if you are interested. I will be skiing the 176cm version this year, but I am 5 foot 9 and 155lbs. The 182 was so much fun, but a little too long, almost felt like a Super-G at speed.
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